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jkeyes98

Ryzen build help

Build Help

I would like the budget to be under $1400

1080p@60 minimum with the potential of 1440@60

any changes are welcome, I would like to go watercooled if its worth the price for performance, I will be OCing my cpu PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

TypeItemPrice
CPUAMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor$194.46 @ OutletPC
CPU CoolerCorsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler$109.99 @ Amazon
MotherboardMSI - B350 PC MATE ATX AM4 Motherboard$79.89 @ OutletPC
MemoryGeIL - EVO POTENZA 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory$164.99 @ Newegg
StorageWestern Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive$149.88 @ OutletPC
Video CardMSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card$404.98 @ Newegg
CaseNZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case$54.99 @ Newegg
Power SupplyEVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply$99.89 @ OutletPC
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total (before mail-in rebates)$1309.07
Mail-in rebates-$50.00
Total$1259.07
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-10-11 18:15 EDT-0400

Posted Oct 11, 2017, 10:20 PM UTC

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2tb-of-yiff•

I don't see anything wrong with this build. Since you have $100 to spare from your max budget, maybe throw in a 1 or 2 TB hard drive?

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jkeyes98OP•

I already have spare drives, that shouldn't be an issue. would you go with the 1600x if I'm getting the separate aio cooler

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3x3x3x3•

The 160X is just clocked higher. You can already do it woth the 1600, so it would just be wasting money. Youd be better off spending it on steam games, heyo

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jkeyes98OP•

Is the only difference that the X come slightly more OCed from the factory?

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3x3x3x3•

Yes. Its easy to overclock, though.

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Raffles7683•

QQ. With your overclocking, are you going to try and hit the 4GHz figure, or simply match the 1600X's stock performance?

If it's the former... best of luck, and expect not to get there! Most people don't. I think only 25% (as an e.g.) of 1700's got to 4Ghz.

Matching the 1600X, however, is much more doable. For that, you don't need to water-cool for sure. Even an FSP Winsdale/Cryorig H7/BeQuiet Pure Rock/Noctua NH-U12S will do the job there.

Other than that, looks good. Make sure your RAM is good for that board, either by looking at the QVL or doing some research. That said, I have yet to use a Ryzen PC (with an up to date BIOS) that couldn't do 2933. I think 3200Mhz is even fairly easy now.

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jkeyes98OP•

If you think it will be hard to hit 4Ghz, would it be worth getting the 1600X instead? or stick with the 1600 and drop the AIO cooler?

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Raffles7683•

If you want to, it's not a bad idea. Whilst 4GHz on all cores is still not a sure fire thing, it's easier on the X series chips. If you want to spend the extra $130 or so USD on the X chip and cooler, go for it.

Or... save the cash, get a 1600 and use the stock cooler (it is MORE than capable of also matching the 1600X).

Use the savings to help you toward a 1080? That'll help you much more @ 1440p than a 1600X!

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jkeyes98OP•

good info thanks, I think going the 1080 route is probable the way to go.

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Dawei_Hinribike•

A GTX 1080 is worth the extra cost since you have room in your budget. It will help you out playing at 1440p.

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jkeyes98OP•

I was debating that would that card out class the cpu though? or will it be able to keep up?

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Dawei_Hinribike•

I have that combo and it's fine. It's great at 1440p and 4K with some settings dialed down.

More expensive CPUs really shine when you want to play on a 144 Hz monitor. But on a standard 60 Hz display, the GPU is handling most of the work, so an expensive CPU is not necessary.

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BlackenedPies•

There's no point in liquid cooling. The $30 Hyper 212 Evo maxes around 70C on a 4GHz R5 1600, and that's about as far as you can push it even on a 280mm CLC. You'll run into a safe voltage and VRM limit before temps. If you really like the idea of a CLC then go for it, but the temp difference between a $50 air cooler and the 240mm H100i V2 is around 5C, and no extra overclocking room

More importantly for your overclocking is VRM efficiency. B350 boards are great value but sacrifice VRM quality. You want good airflow over the top and left of the motherboard for high overclocks

I recommend skipping the CLC in favor of an inexpensive air cooler. Put the extra cash into DDR4 3200 with good reviews from Ryzen ownerst (i.e. it runs at 3200 with low latency), preferrably single-rank Samsung B die. It'll make a larger difference than even if you could get an extra 100 MHz from liquid cooling. Lastly, consider treating yourself to an $80 case and a good fan near the VRM. You're worth it ;)

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jkeyes98OP•

So you recommend the r5 1600 over the X? And which fan and ram would you recommend for over clocking?

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BlackenedPies•

1600 vs 1600x are the same chip, with the 1600 coming with a stock cooler good for an overclock around 3.8 GHz. The X in theory is better quality I.e. clocks slightly better at slightly lower volts, but in practice they're identical and end result is one might run a few degrees hotter due to slightly higher volts. Plus with the 1600 you get a free OK cooler...

Ideally with the fan you strap a $6 80mm on the motherboard near the VRMs, but not everyone is willing to do that. Otherwise you can get a cheap 3 pin and put it in a top fan slot if the case supports it, or a more expensive 4 pin fan, which you can control via PWM. "Airflow optimized" fans are good for exhausting (blowing out of the case, measured by CFM) and pressure fans for blowing in on the motherboard (measured in mm H2O)

Samsung B die list: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/

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earbroccoli•

Are you sure that RAM will run at the advertised speed?

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jkeyes98OP•

No idea, I haven't done much research on ram what would you recommend instead?

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earbroccoli•

Ryzen is picky with RAM and some of it is easier to run at its advertised speed. If running the RAM at that speed is important to you, I would look at the QVL for that motherboard.

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