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AgahnimD

[Fates]Conquest Re-write: Good Guy Garon game mod

Story Rewrite

Fire Emblem Fates:Good Guy Garon Edition  

Like many people, I was disappointed in the narrative given in Fire Emblem Fates. For something that claimed to speak to the grey nature of war, there was very little substance given to the Norhains. The most egregious example of this is King Garon, who is... not good.

The conquest mod seeks to fix this by transforming the pivotal role of King Garon from a cartoonishly evil caricature into a King loyal to Nohr who is slowly losing his mind. Many interactions with the Hoshidan and Nohrian siblings were also altered to give the player character more of a voice and to flesh out the world. This has the added bonus of making the player character more dynamic and decisive. If you are happy with the status quo of the Hoshidan/Nohrian dynamic, you may not be satisfied with the changes. This was designed to be sympathetic to the Nohrians while retaining as much of the original lore and text as possible.

  This does not make any gameplay changes or alter support or paralogue quests.

In order to use this mod, you will need to make changes to the game's base files. This can be done through CFW and Luma3DS.

Screenshots: One Two Three Four Five

Please see the link at header or below for download and installation instructions.

Fire Emblem Fates:Good Guy Garon Edition

Edit: I should probably point out that this isn't just a mod of King Garon's character, but is instead an overhaul of much of the plot. Many inconsistencies in character actions were ironed out and a few additional plot points were added to create a more living world while still adhering to the lore of the games.

Posted Oct 18, 2017, 7:56 PM UTC · edited

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Maritisa•

Well it's good to see someone actually trying to do the thing instead of just writing out wishful thinking.

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Broken_Moon_Studios•

Yup. I've said it before and I'll say it again: "Talk is cheap. Show me results."

Whenever I see a finished mod or hack, even if it's half decent, I will make sure to congratulate the creator. Very few people get things done.

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PandaShock•

From the screenshots alone, you already made the plot of fates better.

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DwyerThunder•

That's actually a really cool project you're doing!

Now make the Deeprealms not stupid.

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Hereticalnerd•

Some things are outside the reach of mere mortals

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Broken_Moon_Studios•

Change "Deeprealms" to "The Future" and skip the cutscene describing the place.

BAM!

Much better already.

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insane_kirby1•

It's still copying Awakening, but it's less subtle. Admittedly, it's a step up from the Deeprealms.

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Broken_Moon_Studios•

Honestly, child characters in general are a silly idea. The only way to make them not so ridiculous is with a time skip or a sequel.

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cbstrad•

a step up from the Deeprealms.

Like that's hard to do.

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afasttoaster•

They're only a few steps down from the baby dimension you could possibly take.

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MegaIgnitor•

Now make the Deeprealms not stupid.

Easy, just cut them out entirely

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NackTheDragon•

Pretty sure the only way to do that is to completely remove kids entirely outside of HoF (Which I wouldn't mind, tbh).

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IStanForRhys•

Garon as a nuanced character rather than a cartoon caricature? You're doing the lord's work here.

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Odovakar•

Holy crap, while this wouldn't save all of Fates, it goes to show what just a slight change in mentality and a few lines could've done to improve the quality of the entire product.

I salute you, dear sir or madam, I salute you.

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Zenith_Tempest•

cut out the shitty plot devices, chapter 15, Lilith's one scene that we all hate, and you have an okay story

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Broken_Moon_Studios•

I would add the Izumo chapter on that list.

It always struck me as the royals being huge hypocrites or immensely stupid.

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Zenith_Tempest•

the whole point of the chapter was supposed to be that the Nohrians wanted to win on their own terms. if that was better conveyed, and if Garon were a better character, that'd actually be an okay chapter

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crescentfeather•

any chance we could get a script without having to install the mod? im curious but modding my game isnt something i can do right now

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AgahnimDOP•

I'm doing another pass to spot any spacing and spelling errors, but after that I'll see about putting a script together.

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Nintendraw•

I'd love to be linked (or catch the post) whenever that happens!

I've also never modded before--is it reversible or permanent, and does the 3DS itself need to be hacked too? What is Luma3DS, something to be put on a stock 3DS , an emulator...? (Noob alert.)

EDIT: Since this says homebrew retro-emulators work best on a New 3DS, I suppose the 3DS Sound App homebrew method works for my N3DS. Now to keep reading... :3

EDIT: 3DS.Guide says there's a rare possibility of you irreversibly bricking your device, yet GBATemp said a year ago that the worst that can happen is a freeze/lockup that can be solved via reboot. Which is right?

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aceofbows•

Right now, things are so safe that the chance to brick is extremely minor. It is a possibility, but in the last six months no one has bricked for reasons other than their own incompetence. As long as you follow the guide properly, you're good.

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Nintendraw•

Thanks! Is there a single guide I should be following (e.g. 3DS.Guide or the 3dshacks sub), or is it all the same info by now? The sub's Q&A thread says start at 3DS.Guide anyways. x)

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AgahnimDOP•

In case you are still interested, I've uploaded the first few chapters to youtube! Link for #1 is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbs4gsCT-G4

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Chubomik•

Small things would have made all the difference, and this shows that so far. A proud, noble man who turned to darkness to empower his kingdom, I want to see that. I hope you can bring Hoshido down a little with their treatment of Nohr in this, and detail how bad they really have it. I like gray, and it looks like you’ll be adding some more to the story

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ardx•

How does this mod handle the Cheve backstory? It seems like it would be hard to make Garon sympathetic while still setting all the key events into motion.

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AgahnimDOP•

Much of the events remain the same as the base game, including pre-game Garon in Cheve. He is definitely not innocent and has done some truly monstrous things. That said, it is expanded on near the end of the game.

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illkillyouwitharake•

holy shit someone actually did it
EDIT: also is it possible to install this on an existing save

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AgahnimDOP•

As far as I know this should work on existing saves (it has on all of mine). The only issue I've run into is that previous saves still keep the old chapter names until you save over them.

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illkillyouwitharake•

Oh fuck now I have to finish my conquest run.
Thanks!

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AgahnimDOP•

I would recommend starting a new game if at all possible simply because previous chapters and story threads build upon themselves.

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IAmBLD•

Damnit, you. I didn't need another reason to play through Conquest!

That said, you've released this just before several games I'm just dying to play, so I'm going to have to put this mod on hold for the moment. I really like the idea of fixing Conquest's story, particularly Garon's character, so I want to support this mod and provide feedback - but it's going to be a while before I can get around to it.

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Broken_Moon_Studios•

Goddamn, this is legit one of the greatest mods I've seen in Fire Emblem, and it's not even that technically impressive.

You deserve lots of praise for both having this idea and going through with it. If more people find about this, it could become a HUGE thing. Make sure to let other forums know and ask some YouTubers to showcase it.

Man, I have the dumbest shit-eating grin on my face right now. This made my day.

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AgahnimDOP•

Thank you!

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ukulelej•

Nuance? In my Fire Emblem?

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ss977•

Make him secretly a cat lover please!

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ArtTeajay•

I was so tempted to rewrite Fates so I’m happy that someone already did it and tried to fix the mess, thanks

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Dunkelritter•

Help, i only have one upvote to give.

Well, i guess it's time to hack my 3DS.

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Mayor_of_Smashville•

How are you gonna spin Garon going and Turning Sumeragi into a pin-cushion?

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Dragonage2ftw•

Many people say that what it should've been was that Sumeragi should've continously told Garon that he can't have what he wants, forcing Garon's hand.

Makes sense to me.

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Mayor_of_Smashville•

So Garon ambushes him and sticks him with a bunch of arrows?

That's a bit cruel, even if your people are starving

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BindingShield•

Anything and everything can be justifiable when your people are in danger. Whether that be ambushing the enemy king with archers, leading a force to attempt to assassinate foreign royalty watching a play on neutral ground.

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AgahnimDOP•

No spin on that I'm afraid.

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Mayor_of_Smashville•

Does he actually admit that the sword was there to kill Mikoto?

Or does he lie?

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AgahnimDOP•

You'll have to play to find out. :)

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ZachAtk23•

Seems really cool. Well done.

While the focus is described as making Garon more gray, did you put in any effort to make Hoshido more gray?

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AgahnimDOP•

Yes, both sides can now reasonably claim they are the "right" ones in the war.

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SonataOfShadows•

Would anyone oppose to a project to take this and further alter it with the psychopath Azura?

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Dragonage2ftw•

God, please.

Someone, do this.

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salocin097•

Enlighten me, what is this?

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Zeebor•

It's amazing how much difference a couple lines of dialogue can make; ain't that right, FUNIMATION!?!

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FireFury190•

Oh my god yes! This really pleases me and makes me want to replay Conquest with this mod. Though I'd have to finish my current Conquest run first.

Seeing lines about Nohr's past and Garon still seeing Corrin as his child despite his fails really goes to show how much you can change the story without entirely re-writting the gameplay scenarios.

[Spoiler] (#s "So how will you be handling the situation that with the crystal ball that Azura shows to Corrin? Will that be the same or will you explain more about why Azura only showed it to Corrin and no one else? Cause I know that was another issue people had.")

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AgahnimDOP•

Spoiler

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FireFury190•

[Spoiler] (#s "The reason I thought of as to why she wouldn't tell the Nohrian siblings is because they wouldn't believe her with just an image from a crystal ball and assume that she's a Hoshidan spy trying to manipulate the siblings to turn on their father. And that the thing about her being kicked out of Hoshido was just an act so they could let her in. So Azura only turned to Corrin because he would believe her the most. Which is why they have to go with the throne plan because that's the only proof they can physically use. As seeing something in person is a lot easier to believe than seeing just an image." )

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AgahnimDOP•

Spoiler

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GreatKnightJ•

Still a little confused by this thread. I assume you changed some part of the story so that Corrin is no longer trying to save Hoshido by destroying Hoshido?

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