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SquarePizza

Gen 3 brass to the face

Has anyone found a good solution to the brass in the face problem?

I had read that swapping out the pointed gen 3 ejector for the flat nosed gen 4 would help with the problem. It didn't seem to help in my case (g26 and g17L both doing it).

edit This is one of the sites that suggests ejector issue with the 3rd gen. http://greyarsenal.com/glock-19-gen-3-erratic-ejection-aka-brass-to-face/

There are plenty of threads on glock talk about it, with some people trying different extractors, but I haven't gone down that road yet.

Posted Nov 15, 2017, 12:44 AM UTC · edited

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dox_doxonThe smallest centimeter•

Maybe ask Glock for a new extractor? I've NEVER had cartridges from my Glocks fly back and hit me. The G29 ejects it into low earth orbit, to join a growing brass belt that rings the stratosphere.

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LIMP WRIST ALERT

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unllamaG7 Ceramic•

Also a sufferer of Gen3 brass to face; also a GSSF Master from 3x wins, so limpwristing/grip probably isn't the situation.

The Gen4 ejector only kinda helped for me.

Went to a Glock days event and described the problem to the armorer; he swapped out my extractor with a newer one, despite the lack of wear. It seems to have mostly worked, so I believe it's largely an extractor issue. Not sure if every Glock factory armorer would do so; I have a decent rapport with him from GSSF.

The Apex extractor gets a lot of forum reviews for its ability to solve the problem, but I haven't personally used it. Based on my swapout with a newer Glock extractor, I believe it could work.

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superradgrapes•

So do you think it's mostly a gen3 issue? Do you have thoughts on why a gen4 extractor wouldn't help? I'm asking because I have a gen4, and I kind of feel like even if I limp wristed to the point that my barrel was pointing straight up, i might not get hit in the face. My casings go up, sure, but mostly to the side. I feel like unless my chamber ended up like 6 inches from my face, the casings would miss to the side.

So im curious to know what it might be about the gen3's that allow them to come straight back!

thanks!

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SquarePizzaOPG17 L, G26 OD•

According to what I have read on glock talk, it is hugely a gen 3 issue, and maybe into the early gen4s. When they switched to the MIM parts, some theorize that it took glock awhile to get it right, but they never really admitted that they had a problem. Lots of life long glock users have gen 2s that shot great, and later gen 4s that worked.

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unllamaG7 Ceramic•

I think the replacement extractor I got was a later version, like you'd find on the Gen4 (not sure if they're interchangable).

As for why the Gen3 is especially predisposed? I don't know. Maybe it's the design of the extractors with the introduction of LCI and maybe MIM manufacturing, maybe the spring design (wouldn't this impact the Gen2?). I don't know.

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SquarePizzaOPG17 L, G26 OD•

I ordered an apex last night, I will update when it arrives.

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unllamaG7 Ceramic•

Cool, be interested to know your findings

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sweet_chin_musicG30 Gen3•

The only time I've seen people take brass to the face was from improper grip/limp wristing.

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superradgrapes•

What are we talking here? like, actually in your face? Or just kind of heading in the general direction of your face.

Mine is a gen4, but I can see how it could feel like it's coming right at you depending on what you're used to. But I agree, something seems wrong if you're actually getting smacked in the face :)

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SquarePizzaOPG17 L, G26 OD•

I regularly get them off the safety glasses, forehead, or arms.

Brass is always piled right at my feet, which is easy to find, but dangerous without glasses.

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SquarePizzaOPG17 L, G26 OD•

I have come on a thread on glock talk specifically about the gen 3 issue that suggests trying a new extractor. It seems a lot of people have this problem with the later gen 3s.

So that will be my next step.

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/glock-19-gen-3-brass-to-face.1489638/

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diamondnemesis•

I had really bad BTF and erratic ejections from my G19 Gen 3. Casings of different ammo would hit my safety glasses, land directly on top of my head, or go in a 2 o'clock direction.

I fixed my issue with the Apex Tactical Extractor, Apex extractor spring(included with the extractor on ebay), #30274 ejector, and a non-LCI spring loaded bearing(part #SP01176).

Now my ejections are really strong and go in a 4 o'clock direction. However, the ejections are so strong that when I'm shooting in a stall at a range, the casings would hit the stall wall and bounce back at me. Atleast, it's a lot better than getting smacked in the face or having a hot casing burn on top of my head.

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Devan94G17 Gen3•

Change out your extractor spring, the one parallel to the striker channel.

Also, consider the possibility that the recoil of the gun is tilting it back toward you, therefor ejecting in the wrong direction, but still properly. Glocks have heavy slides and a lot of people don’t realize how much the recoil moves the gun without a solid grip.

Hold the gun tighter, replace that spring just to be safe, and also buy one of these:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01780EY2Y/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_-yqdAbZ2YXMVV

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sunbro2919 + 43•

How did that Apex extractor turn out?

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