Pilfering the vault: 4-FA plus 5-MAPB

I felt like going old school, so I unthawed my back-up supply of 5-MAPB.

I never had a chance to try combining it with 4-FA, so I'm giving it a go tonight.

This is a controversial combination, since they both release serotonin. But I've done enough research and reading on the combo to feel comfortable exploring.

I started with 100 mg 5-MAPB and 50 mg 4-FA. I'm about an hour in and it's been a pretty chill come-up so far. I'm still trying to figure out a redosing plan, but I didn't want to push it in case I found a plateau.

For 4-FA by itself, I can normally hardly feel 50 mg at all. But I had also read that in the combo both are potentiated. So I started with 50 even though my instinct was to do 70 or 80 mg. Better to play it safe right?

If it doesn't reach a certain level of intensity though, I might get impatient. We'll have to see. Any redose will be appropriately small. I've never had bad sides from 5-MAPB or 4-FA, and I have no intention to start now. ;-)

I might update unless I get completely distracted by something shiny. Good evening to you, fellow RC afficionados!

Update 1: Oooooh. There's that empathetic woosh. Nice. Do I play video games, or do I melt into a puddle on the floor? Decisions....

Update 2: I was in the plateau and it was nice. Starting to fade now. Overall not as euphoric as I expected. But I still feel great.

Update 3: Just some residual stimulation from the 4-FA now. I did decide to redose when I felt the plateau giving way, which happened sooner than expected, about 2.5 hours in. For the redose I chose 50 mg 4-FA and 30 mg 5-MAPB. I've seen recommendations on both sides in my reading as to which chem to dose higher in the combo.

Well, I don't think I really felt that 5-MAPB redose. The 4-FA bump was good, and typical of 4-FA. It didn't feel outrageously potentiated for the redose (hard to tell during the first plateau). I could have tried again, but I felt I'd pushed it enough this time. It was a great experience in any case, even if not quite up to my expectations. So I called it quits there. Maybe some herb to end the night.

Overall, the 5-MAPB didn't seem to be as big a role player as I would have thought. Noticeable, but more in the background than expected. If I try it again, I'll probably start myself higher for the 5-MAPB. It seems kind of weird since I started at 100 mg today, which is rated as a heavy dose.

My previous 5-MAPB experiences were between 90 and 110 mg, and I had positive results. But I was also greener then, and had tried fewer things. (Now I do all the drugs.)

(Well...that was a joke...not all of them, but a wide variety.)

There could be a couple factors. at play. The 5-MAPB has been around a while, as you can imagine. It may be deteriored somewhat. I try to take care of my collection, but I'm not as good as I'd like to be. Some stuff has been sitting at room temp for a while, and I can't expect it to last forever. But I didn't think 5-MAPB was a fast degrader.

I've done a serotonergic drug here and there over the past few months (mainly 3-MMC) so it could be tolerance. But it's not like I'm doing it daily, so that doesn't seem right.

Or my biochemistry could have changed over the last year. Lord knows I've gifted my body a lot of whacky chems. Or perhaps foisted them.

Or maybe my taste changed? I donno...I still fucking love 3-MMC...that never changed so... hrmmmm.

Lastly, informal poll for a few who reach this, is it better to put updates in the body of the post, or make them comments below? Food for thought...I think I've seen both ways.

Thanks all for reading. Hope it was interesting! And now I feel like adding a tl;dr 'cause why not.

tl;dr I got fuuuuuuuuucked up... a little bit...I mean it wasn't excessive but I was still fuuuuuucked to some extent. Yeah! Imma say fuuuuuuck again. :)