Do you think it would:
a) get processed into ore b) cause the grinder to get jammed c) explode and cause massive damage to the orion
Edit d) ground up but exhausted out the back
Posted Dec 2, 2017, 5:58 AM UTC · edited
You could expect a grinder like that to be heavily reinforced, because even rocks could have volatile components, and you wouldn't risk c to happen while operating with genuine rocks.
So you think C unlikely?
Exactly.
Agreed, I would bet D. It's not for nothing that the Reclaimer is really different. That one can grind ships for profit. The Orion would should not be able to do this really. Maybe you get a bit of metal, but compared to a Reclaimer I bet you lose 90% of the value.
C is exactly what would happen. Infact thats the example cig has given. For that matter, thats at the core of the discussed mining mechanic.
You have to use scanners to identify materials, and cut out gas pockets that could explode damaging your ship if consumed. Alternately avoid substances that could react with the expensive minerals and make them worth less.
Edit; to continue, thats why youll have to strip a ship prior to throwing it inbthe back of a reclaimer. A live power plant being processed would be bad
Another great Orion question: what would happen to a fighter sized ship that you "accidentally" pointed the mining beam at?
For the life of me I do not remember where I saw it, but they want mining lasers and combat lasers to be fundamentally different. You cannot mine by pew pewing an asteroid with normal fighter lasers and the mining laser doesn' really have combat damage assigned.
That said the statements were made a long time ago as hypotheticals in the discussion I saw and who knows how it will really play out in final version.
Truly something that must be tested.
Perhaps the most interesting results will be from accidentally hitting the fighter with the beam before it falls into the grinders. very nasty accident indeed.
^ New York Italian accent: It would be such a terrible thing if anything was to happen to your nice ship - like maybe it accidentally got in the way of a mining beam and fell into a grinder, and maybe you were accidentally in it."
Exactly. You remember that guy jumpin claims out on the asteroid fields of Yela? Yeah that guy had an accident, real dangerous business is mining. you see, he flew into a mining laser on an Orion and before anyone could help he went straight through the grinders. Better be careful where you mine ya know?
for science!
Well......only one way to find out.
This is something we need to do when the Orion get into the verse.
You know that org mate who always afk's when their supposed to be keeping watch...
Exactly.
Now I just wait for the first guy to "weaponise" a Orion for ramming.
Well the Orion can't be a better salvager than the Reclaimer.
I would say it jams. The drill is made for rock, not strong hull metal.
It's made to process tungsten, titanium and chromium - what strong hulls are you talking about?
Can people not tell the difference between unrefined metal and refined metal?
Should be fine to reprocess an Origin 300 series ship then.
^ This. I would assume it jams as it is meant to handle raw ores, not processed and tempered metals, which are generally much stronger.
Then again, it sort of depends on the size of the ship and the size of the grinders. P52? Probably scrap. Cutlass? Jammed.
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Just stick with rock and ore. Repair costs will be real. Reclaimer for processed metals.
Explode and glitch out the physics of the Orion.