Jewish settlers turn TERRORIST. Rampage/Riots after forced removal from illegally occupied home.
cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/04/israel.hebron/...Posted Dec 4, 2008, 9:35 PM UTC
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Religious fundamentalism is the real enemy.
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I think this is more racism and greed honestly.
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Yes it is. Your comment however if off-topic IMO. This seems to me to be more about racism and the consequences of fascism.
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Even racists and (especially) fascists get reasonable after a while. But religious fundamentalism keeps you stuck-on-stupid permanently.
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I thought when muslims act like fucking animals that we're meant to blame it on them being dicks, and in no way related to Islam whatsoever?
Why the double standard? Why can't reddit just admit that religion causes people to act like animals?
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fundamentalism
All the world's religions are basically OK, but fundamentalism - particularly when it's tied to politics, makes political situations intractable.
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I thought these muslims weren't really representing islam when they murder people, now you're telling me they are 'fundamentalist' muslims?
So islam truly is a violent religion after all? Thanks for clearing that up.
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Wow. Stay classy religious nuts.
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I don't know, but I wonder if the dispute has to do with Arabs forcing out all of the Jews from Hebron in the 20s. By the standards here, they used terrorism to enforce ethnic cleansing of a more than 2,000 year old Jewish community. The actions of these settlers was clearly and utterly wrong, but I don't understand why there can't be any Jews in the West Bank, though there were Jews there for thousands of years, but Israel has to not only have 1 million Arab citizens, but is criticized for giving them more rights than Arabs get in any Arab country.
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Oh, well since the people being hurt now are obviously the exact same mean people from 80 fucking years ago, it's all okay.
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Try again. Why is it wrong for Jews to live in Hebron? Why are the Arabs, who are living there because Arabs removed all of the Jews in Hebron allowed to keep all Jews out? How come you support the Palestinian right to keep the West Bank, which had thousands of years of Jewish presence, Judenfrei?
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Why is it wrong for Jews to live in Hebron? Why are the Arabs, who are living there because Arabs removed all of the Jews in Hebron allowed to keep all Jews out?
It's not. The problem is that they stole that dudes fucking house.
I support letting the past go, and coming up with a solution to the present day issues and not worrying about who's family lived there 50 or 100 or 1000 years ago. You, on the other hand, seem more like an eye for an eye kind of person.
And why the "nice try" comment? If you weren't so condescending you might not come across as such a fucktard.
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I support letting the past go, and coming up with a solution to the present day issues and not worrying about who's family lived there 50 or 100 or 1000 years ago. You, on the other hand, seem more like an eye for an eye kind of person.
No, I am an equal rules kind of person. You says that 50 years ago does not matter. So, I assume, you reject the Palestinian complains about the 1948 War. Is that correct? If so, then the justification for most of the Arab treatment of Israel sort of goes away. And the 67 War becomes a marginal issue.
And why the "nice try" comment? If you weren't so condescending you might not come across as such a fucktard.
And your sarcastic remarks was perfect, right?
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You sir, are full of shit.
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The interesting things about ad hominem attacks is that they don't actually refute the argument. So what if I am "full of shit", you have not provide a thing against what I wrote.
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Painful irony: Israelis --> forced out of homes --> get violent = evil terrorists. Palestinians --> forced to allow Israelis to live near them --> get violent = justified freedom fighters. Reddit's head is jammed a tad far up it's ass.
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One state solution. Live together, give the palestinians back there lands from before the major influxes. Live together. Jews can live in Hebron, just don't live in a house/on land that was taken away from a palestinian by force 40 years ago. There are lot's of opportunities to buy/sell/trade land under a more just system that includes everyone. Institute anti-descrimination laws fairly and swiftly, both in jewish dominated areas as well as palestinian dominated areas. Don't destroy the Dome of the Rock, don't do it, don't do it. Don't be afraid of the inevitable reality that 10 years will bring: a palestinian population majority. Act peacefully, with open hearts and minds, putting lives above ideologies.
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Most jews in the world think this way.
This is how they justify the actions of israel no matter what it does.
To most jews in the world there is always some incident that happened at some time which justifies what israel does.
That's why the overwhelming majority of jews all over the world fully support israel and the occupation.
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It is a commonly believed myth that Jews have a unanamious consensus on Israel. We, like any large group are simply not homogeneous - no matter what people like you think.
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It is a commonly believed myth that Jews have a unanamious consensus on Israel.
I don't see what that sentence has to do with my post.
Nowhere in my post did I mention anything about a unanimous consensus.
We, like any large group are simply not homogeneous - no matter what people like you think.
What makes you believe I think jews are homogeneous?
I suggest you read the post before replying to it next time.
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You show me some reliable statistics and we can talk. Until then I think you're just condemning all Jews based on the actions of a few Israelis (whom I also condemn).
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Evicted from their home;
Forced to turn to terrorism;
Torching houses and confronting the Israeli police.
If there was anyone deserving the world`s support at this time, it is these poor dispossesed Palestinians...
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Jewish settlers turn TERRORIST.
Whaddaya mean "turn"? Jewish settlers are terrorists.
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Israeli settlers. Not all Jews support the racist actions of Israelis.
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Not all Israelis support the racist actions of (ultra-religious) Jews.
Right back at ya.
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True that, I just wanted to make it clear that these people are Israelis before they are Jews. They are trying to defend territory, not preserve the Jewish race or some bullshit.
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Most do.
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Why does everyone just sit and watch the USA fund money to these Racist Fascist Zionist invaders?
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In this situation, the entity the US is funding (Israeli government) did the right thing:
The latest round of violence comes hours after Israeli police and military forcibly removed a group of settlers from a disputed home in Hebron.
That's exactly what Israel should do: stop protecting the settlers.
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There were Jews in Hebron for thousands of years until they were forced out by Arab terrorism in the 20s. How are they invaders?
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Because it's 2008, not 1928?
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OK. So is 1948 long ago enough to ignore? How about 1967? What is your cut off point?
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This shit has to end at some point (unlikely, I know). The Palestinians act like a bunch of punks, but the Israelis are not helping the situation with incidents like this. At least the court appears to be trying to do the right thing in this case by removing the family from the house, although I'm not sure how good the military is at enforcing other jews from video I've seen...
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Israel says: Moan. Give us all your money. We are always the victims. Whine. You're all anti-semites. Whinge. We have the right to defend ourselves. We kill Palestinian kids for sport. Remember the fake sillycaust.
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Notice how CNN reports that it is a “disputed home” and that a Palestinian man “claims it belongs to him”. If an Israeli court says the home belongs to the Palestinian man then it most definitely belongs the that man. Israeli courts would never favor a Palestinian unless the evidence was overwhelming and even then it sometimes does not.
Huh? The Supreme Court in Israel is remarkably even-handed...it's pretty much the only honest institution in this whole conflict.
I said Israeli courts would never favor a Palestinian man unless the evidence was overwhelming. If the home did not belong to this Palestinian man the Israeli courts would not say that it did. Period.