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randomguy186

Net Neutrality advocacy - help friends and family understand

Help your non-technical friends and family understand the impact of Net Neutrality by posting this on your Facebook account:

The Federal Communications Commission plans to allow Internet providers to charge for access to Facebook and other Internet sites.

If your Facebook client allows, pick a brightly-colored background to draw attention to it.

EDIT: Grabbing non-technical people's attention with a specific example that could affect them is the best way to get them to engage with you - and THEN you can start educating them on Net Neutrality, and why it's important that ISPs give everyone equal access to every port number on every IP address.

Posted Dec 12, 2017, 3:21 PM UTC · edited

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iwifiaCloud Admin•

Thats not really true... It is possible though but not factually accurate....

Why not educate them on NN specifically.

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ExZero16•

The same reason that there are all those stupid attention grabbing false news posts all over Facebook. Most people are stupid and this is how you get their attention.

You don't educate stupid people.... Its a loosing battle :(

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randomguy186OPDOS 6.22 sysadmin•

Why not educate them on NN specifically.

Years ago I was a teacher, and the most important part of any lesson plan was grabbing students' attention - because it's practically impossible to teach people who don't want to listen.

Grabbing their attention with a specific example that could affect them is the best way to get them to engage with you - and THEN it's useful to start educating them on NN.

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randomguy186OPDOS 6.22 sysadmin•

It's not complete, certainly, but then no brief advocacy statement ever is. If what I've said is false, help me compose a better statement by pointing out the flaw in the following line of reasoning:

  1. Current Net Neutrality regulations prevent ISPs from charging their customers for access to specific sites.
  2. If those regulations are lifted, ISPs will be allowed to charge customers for access to specific sites.
  3. A specific example of a popular Internet site is Facebook.
  4. The FCC commissioners direct the actions of the FCC.
  5. On Thursday, Dec 14, the FCC commissioners plan to vote in such a way that the Net Neutrality regulations will be lifted.
  6. Therefore, on Thursday, the Federal Communications Commission plans to allow Internet providers to charge for access to Facebook and other Internet sites.
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Panacea4316IT Manager•

Please give one example of an ISP charging a person more money for a specific site in 2014....I'll wait.

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iwifiaCloud Admin•

Netflix.

League of Legends.

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Panacea4316IT Manager•

Sources or you're full of shit.

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randomguy186OPDOS 6.22 sysadmin•

Your flair says "IT Manager." Tell me (1) why you think information technology in 2017 won't permit this to happen, and (2) why you think managers at large ISPs won't act to maximize shareholder value.

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Panacea4316IT Manager•

Because in the long term it doesn't benefit them because we have a free market. If my ISP does this, I have multiple other options to go with.

I know economics and free market are lost on progressives and all.

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starmizzleS-1-5-420-512•

Here's the thing, though...a given ISP ought to be able to shape traffic however they want to maximize the end-user experience. BUT they shouldn't be able to use that power to further their own streaming services or whatever. So NN isn't the problem, the ISP's conflict of interest is.

Also, please consider just how they're going to determine if traffic is "legal". I sure as fuck don't need/want the government involved in that.

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starmizzleS-1-5-420-512•

Also, ISPs appear to be following the airline mantra of selling more than they actually have and that should be curbed. Making internet a utility sure seems like a slippery ass slope towards being billed for usage.

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Panacea4316IT Manager•

lol I love bullshit blatantly false posts like this. Like everyone just forgets that the internet wasn't like this in 2014 before NN. Fear mongering at it's finest.

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randomguy186OPDOS 6.22 sysadmin•

There are places where the the Internet is like this now. What makes you think large ISPs won't do everything they can to increase shareholder value?

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