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RomanSenate

Beginning to dabble in oil based pomades, have a couple questions.

And yes I did check the faq first haha.

I've only started using pomades in general earlier this year, starting out with the common water based suspects such as Suavecito, Layrite, Imperial, etc. While I love Layrite's various lines and still use them quite often, I've more recently began branching out into oil based options in search of a more classic look.

So far I've tried:

Tres Flores

Black & White

Dax's Wave and Groom

Goon Grease

Lucky Franc's medium

Murray's

Royal Crown

Reuzel Pink

I've been enjoying each in varying amounts, but I'm struggling to get exactly what I'm going for due to a couple reasons.

First, I often find that I'll end up with thin locks of hair sticking together and laying out of place with the rest, mostly on the top behind the curl of my pomp and towards the back of my head, giving me an undesirable uneven look. My theories as to why are either due to my hair type (which is very thick but naturally dry, wavy, and poofy) or possibly using too much product. Could also just be my haircut, but the barber I go to is pretty damn dope, one of the best cuts I've had. Regardless, I find it pretty difficult to avoid. Has anyone else dealt with this, and if so have you found any solutions? Exhibit A, day three of Reuzel Pink with a little bit of Royal Crown on top.

My next issue is figuring out how to properly deal with buildup and showering. Usually when I first put an oil based pomade into my baseline, no grease hair I can get a great look and excellent hold (especially with the heavys like Dax, Reuzel Pink, and Murray's), but after rinsing (no shampoo or conditioner) it in the shower the hold decreases significantly afterwards, even if I add more heavy holding product. Usually I fully blow dry out my hair and curl the front, so I have as little wetness as possible in my hair when restyling, but even so on the second and subsequent days my pomp tends to fall over and I have to go for more of a slick back. Should I be using a shower cap to keep my hair completely dry while using oil based pomades? If you guys out there rinse your hair as I do, how to you get your next-day hair to get the same hold?

I'd really appreciate any helpful info you guys might have. I actually just picked up some Blackship as well in hopes that an unorthodox water based might be a remedy to my woes, probably gonna give it a shot tomorrow.

Posted Dec 14, 2017, 3:25 AM UTC · edited

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justuntlsundown•

That's application and styling method, not your pomade. You're probably not getting enough pomade down at the roots of your hair where you need it most. I'd also be willing to bet you are pushing your hair forward with your hand more than you should. Your hand should be back there more as a guide to help your comb pull it forward from the front. It's more time consuming but the result is much better.

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RomanSenateOP•

Thanks for the tips dude, I think you're spot on about not getting enough pomade at the roots, I've actually noticed that before but hadn't considered it as an impediment to what I'm going for. Up until now I've applied my pomade initially on top of combed back hair, then sweeping from the back forwards and trying to coat the entire length. I'm going to start really focusing it on getting it on the roots first and not overly coating the top now. I tried to really work it into my roots today and got a good outcome, but I used Black Ship so just it being an unorthodox water based probably helped.

In terms of pushing my hair forward more than I should, do you mean the technique seen a lot on youtube pomp tutorials, with a hand on top pushing forwards as you comb the front up? If so I actually don't really do that at all, for some reason I've never been able to get that to work for me, I get my volume through blow drying and then using a pick. Maybe I should try to get the hand technique right though.

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NeoGuado•

I'm curious about this aswell as I'm having similar problems (I have a similar hairtype as you it seems).

What I can tell you is that my barber is always able to style my hair perfectly after a fresh cut. He always spends around 5-7 minutes furiously combing my hair while blowdrying it in a upwards direction. I have found this difficult to achieve by myself at home. His method helps tremedously in keeping my hair in check during the day and also has the benefit of having to apply very little product.

I have also found that the longer my hair gets the easier it becomes to style, but always gets messier looking during the day. Personally I try to prevent too much pomade build up as it makes my hair a lot heavier and it also becomes more difficult to create the look I want with my hair.

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RomanSenateOP•

Yeah when I first started going for a pomp style I didn't blow dry my hair at all, but after having a couple barbers use a similar technique as you describe I started learning how to do it myself, and it's helped immeasurably. I don't think I have it entirely perfected yet, but in terms of getting volume and accentuating my curls in front and minimizing in back it definitely helps. But again like you describe, my barber gets way more out of less product than I'm able to thus far.

As for buildup I'm still learning the ropes of how to properly navigate it, I've read some guides on here and other places, but it may be that like you too much buildup just doesn't work for my hair.

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RomanSenateOP•

Reporting back, after styling with Nostalgic's Firm Petro pomade and using the 'Lockhart method' I've heard described in some of modernmantv's videos (applying product to partially blow dried still damp hair, styling, then fully blow drying as you restyle) I've been able to cut down a bit on the thin flyaway locks. Still have some as you can see, but not as bad as I've dealt with previously.

I should note however that I did make efforts to degrease with Aussie 3 Minute Miracle and some Bed Head TIGI shampoo, so it remains to be seen how I do with further build up in the days ahead.

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ThatGuyThatPersons•

Starting off with damp hair really helps especially in distribution. Personally I use Hanz De Fuko (modify pomade) and dampen my hair with a spray bottle and finger comb it in (it applies white so water helps it darken until it's gone) and then comb and gradually add more. Hairs don't stick together, water soluble, and smells good. (Like really good, you'll wanna eat it bro)

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