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Trade Talk: What potential trades would interest you?

Given the trade deadline being fairly soon, theres been lots of trade talk. After the thread about Kane, it got me thinking. Who would we want to trade for?

Here's a small list of players that have trade rumors flying (can expand if needed):

 

Evander Kane (BUF - LW, $5.25 mil per year through 2017-2018)

Max Pacioretty (MTL - LW, $4.5 mil per year through 2018-2019)

James Neal (VGK - LW/RW, $5 mil per year through 2017-2018)

Rick Nash (NYR – LW/RW, $7.8 mil per year through 2017-2018)

Mike Green (DET - D, $6 mil per year through 2017-2018)

 

Anyone have any thoughts on trades we could make?

Posted Jan 18, 2018, 10:10 PM UTC

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mynamesstillnotjason•

No way that VGK is a seller at deadline.

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nitrogeneOP#8•

even if they were, i doubt theyd trade neal

i just put him down cuz rumors flying and its relevant to us. id gladly take him if hes up for trade

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omjf23Good ol' Red Beard•

Agreed. Vegas will likely try to extend him. They're not in a position to get rid of him and few teams will trade a roaster player of close-to or equal point production for a rental.

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OlKentuckyHomeCellblock 303•

Unless Neal has communicated that he doesn't intend to sign in the off-season, or they could deal him and sign him again in the summer. His streaky nature has been apparent as of late. He started off on a tear, but he hasn't been an integral part of their success as of late.

I know this is unlikely to happen, but there's a small chance of them giving up Neal or Perron for futures and resigning them in the off-season.

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omjf23Good ol' Red Beard•

I cant see a scenario where we'd consider a trade for Green. Especially with a salary hit that hefty, man. There's no room/need for him in our defense pairs.

Montreal will want a lot for Pacioretty, and it won't be asking too much for his value. He's had 30+ goals in multiple seasons. They'll want and deserve a roster player of high value, a 1st, and god knows what else. Bottom line, he'll be too costly despite his low salary hit.

Rick Nash is nowhere near worth what his salary cap is, and I think a trade for him would be most ill-advised.

Evander Kane is feasible, but I think a rental is not ideal. Should this trade happen, it would at least involve someone like Fabbro and maybe Aberg plus a second round pick, or a 1st and Fabbro. Something like that. Unless he signed an extension immediately, I wouldn't be happy with a rental.

Edit: I still say a player like Athanasiou would fit what we need perfectly. At 23, he's a speedy forward that can play RW. He's low cost salary wise for the goals he produces and will need a new contract after this season (RFA). He'll want an increase in pay, and as I'm looking at their cap situation, I don't see them affording it unless they move Mike Green which might be difficult. He'd slide in nicely anywhere in the top three lines. Detroit could ask a considerable price, but he won't have much in past stats for Holland to drive his price up. Also Detroit needs futures whether Holland wants to accept it or not.

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WillCode4CatsDisciple of the Church of Saros•

I still say a player like Athanasiou would fit what we need perfectly.

Stop, you're getting my hopes up.

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jimmybuffetisgod#9•

The problem with that is the wings will almost certainly move green and they are not gonna want to move a young player like Athanasiou unless a big price is paid. I think a cheaper and more realistic target would be Tartar and get the wings to retain some salary.

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omjf23Good ol' Red Beard•

Probably. I'd take Tatar for the right price.

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jimmybuffetisgod#9•

mid-high draft pick, aberg/mcleod or Emelin/mcleod would probably get it done. I'd make that trade. Gives the wings futures and an young winger who probably needs a change of scenery or a decent defenseman. Preds get 3 years of a mid-high 20s goal scorer at a retained salary. Perfect to slot in on the 3rd line. Plus use this as an opportunity to get mcleod off the books.

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sidebysondheim#76•

Detroit wouldn't need to move Green to pay for AA since he's UFA at the end of the season, and there's no way they're resigning him (plus rumours are that they'll likely try to move Mrazek or release him to UFA as well). And like others said, Holland probably will move him (even if the return isn't amazing).

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KidparkinsonsNSH•

I am against trading Fabbro or Tolvanen for rentals. I understand that that limits us in terms of trade options (no Kane, Patches, Hoffman, etc.).

Saying that, The only thing I think we need is someone to bolster our third line. Depending on how we want our third line to play, there are several options:

Jason Pominville would compliment Bonino and Jarnkork nicely. He can still play the cycle game that the third line is currently playing, and has an offensive touch that I don't think the other two have.

If we want the third line to be a pure shut-down line, we could go after Plekanec. I would feel very comfortable about Plekanec, Bonino, and Jarnkork going up against the other teams top line. While Plekanec is old, he still has wheels and is strong defensively.

If we want to add another dimension to the third line while still keeping it defensively sound, Michael Grabner could be a lovely addition. Grabner would add much needed speed to our third line to offset Bonino. He also plays on the penalty kill, and he surprisingly is tied for second with Alex Ovechkin in even strength goals.

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Enjoy_ByNSH•

If we trade Tolvanen I'm taking Poile's award away from him

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bigtuck54#33•

There is no chance we trade tolvanen

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ThetotheOAustrian Predator•

I'm pretty high on Pacioretty but I think we don't have the assets to get him. If we want a player of that calibre we'd have to trade away one of our Top 4 D-Men, which would be a huge mistake in my opinion.

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omjf23Good ol' Red Beard•

we'd have to trade away one of our Top 4 D-Men

Not necessarily, but they would definitely want a roster player and then some. If they trade Pacioretty then their need for a forward will increase greatly. I was thinking more like they would ask for Fiala, Tolvanen, and a pick. I think they'll want a roster forward, a high prospect, and a 1st or at least a second. Without Pacioretty they'll be quite removed from the playoff picture, and they'll want plenty to help them get there, even with Shea Weber healthy and Carey Price.

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nitrogeneOP#8•

Pacioretty is the one that interested me the most too

How much u think they'd want for him? Give the price for Kane....idk

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omjf23Good ol' Red Beard•

A lot. Players who score 30+ goals in three consecutive seasons..I'd say it'd be comparable to what Vegas would ask for James Neal.

Buffalo's asking price for E. Kane is just starting high to get trade talks going and try to reap the best value possible. He's a high-value player, but not that high*.

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JaiBubwan•

James van Riemsdyk. Consistent scoring winger (currently has 19 goals, and totaled 29 goals last season). Bigger body at 6'3/217 lbs. 28 years of age.

His contract is up soon, and the Leafs are up against the cap. They have potentially expensive & younger players like Matthews, Marner, & Nylander to sign in the future.

Interestingly, van Riemsdyk currently plays on the 3rd line in Toronto. An important factor, considering most do not wish to see the Pred's 1st (JOFA) or 2nd (Turris) lines interfered with.

A final consideration is that, by most accounts, van Riemsdyk successfully gelled with younger line-mate Mitch Marner. Indicating he could be a "bedrock" talent - someone Nashville can confidently pair younger & developing players with.

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nitrogeneOP#8•

I think that would be a fantastic trade, dunno if the leafs would be selling

We'd have to give something they can use immediately for him

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OlKentuckyHomeCellblock 303•

They're going to have to deal JVR, Nylander, or Marner at some point, but I'm not sure the Preds are going to want to pay the asking price.

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JaiBubwan•

Re: Leafs selling. James van Riemsdyk, Mitch Marner, & William Nylander are the only assets that can get them the top defenceman they desperately lack. Of course, they could wait until free agency. But they've been burned that way before (recall Stamkos).

Re: What Nashville gives up. What could Nashville give them? There are two options:

Option #1: Mattias Ekholm. And the Preds could demand the world for his cap-friendly contract. I would imagine not only van Riemsdyk, but also a 1st round, and a solid defense prospect like either Travis Dermott or Timothy Liljegren.

Option #2: While the Toronto media has been agitating for an NHL-ready defenceman, it's not necessarily the case that the Leafs management are in such a rush. Their initial plan was to build over a longer period of time. Meaning, they could still be content with a Preds defense prospect in exchange. Perhaps Nashville could throw in a bottom-6 like Aberg to sweeten the deal.

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bomberfan2Fil The RV•

Someone to take Aberg's spot would be the only thing i want. Vanek or Vrbata could fill that spot. Both are UFA at end of season.

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OlKentuckyHomeCellblock 303•

Vrbata has been a healthy scratch a ton this season. I don't see him fitting the bill.

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Enjoy_ByNSH•

I would love Rick Nash but they'd have to retain salary and the price couldn't be too high at 33, however if we could sign him for a not-too-long contract to boot then it would be worth considering giving up something good (good, not great)

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OlKentuckyHomeCellblock 303•

I think he's been pretty lackluster this season. Age finally catching up to him?

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Just_Kickin_It•

They need a speedy big body who can hit, shoot, and get to the front of the net. My two cents. As to who is available that fits that mold..."rhode island Is neither a road nor an island, talk amongst yourselves"

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jerbear18#18 Neal•

I don’t think we go big name. We have solid top 2 lines so I don’t see any concerns there.

If GMDP makes a trade, it’s bottom 6 utility guy that helps us in the playoffs and give us another resource in case someone gets injured late.

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OlKentuckyHomeCellblock 303•

I like the idea of a guy like Patrick Maroon. Granted he'd be a rental, but he's a big body guy who excels at getting in front of the goalie and wreaking havoc. Think younger, bigger, stronger Hartnell who doesn't fall down as much. He also isn't afraid to drop the mitts which would be nice considering McLeod is progressing his way into a permanent healthy scratch.

Chiarelli is an idiot; so, the asking price shouldn't be as high as someone like Patches or Kane.

His current cap hit is $1.5 M. He has 11 goals and 24 points this season. Not bad for a middle 6 guy who can bolster depth for a lower price than some of these others on the list.

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