Why are there so few cohesive political movements and strategies for realizing white interests?

Title. Seems every other minority group in invested in ethnic solidarity to one extent or another. With the enormous growth of white identitarianism, why haven't we seen a correspondent increase in organized political activity?

Posted Feb 17, 2018, 11:48 PM UTC

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Fiveos2Monarchist•

because its suppressed, of course. We have to shift the overton window enough first so that we can actually have such groups without it being suicidal. At this moment, anyone who feels sad about the projected extinction of white people will be a social pariah, and will be severely limited in their ability to have friends, jobs, etc.

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PictureFrameWindowOPYou are more than an animal.•

We've been shifting the Overton window for years. What is going to make it reach a critical mass?

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hailmurdoch14•

It's happening right now. I have watched consciousness grow. The full blown critical mass though won't happen until people's lives are affected. Once the writing is on the wall, and even White soccer moms realize that their country will no longer be their own, then it will be critical mass. But that is still decades away. For now we have to be satisfied with strong, continual growth on the internet. We've basically taken over youtube. The youth are with us. Things are moving in our direction now.

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lipidslyProtestant•

Many whites simply think they need permission to take their own side.

Once we reach them, theyll never go back

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RedPilledItNationalist Socialist•

Permission is huge. For the most part we follow authority, even the individualistic Americans.

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Fiveos2Monarchist•

I think it is very close. We are seeing tucker carlsen dip into it, Michael savage, mark Levin, etc

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572833•

The media's job is to legitimize your feelings but make sure no one "dips" too far to be effective. Id recommend ignoring all those guys.

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islammuslims•

You named two Jews, I think they are gatekeepers. Tucker is good though, he got called a racist and ethno-nationalist by (((Bill Kristol))). Show's he on to something.

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lipidslyProtestant•

Hillary Clinton name dropped us to try and smear Trump. Were getting there bud. Just hold tight.

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Welderhelp•

Most of us need our jobs to support our families or ourselves. Any support of white interests is considered white supremacy. White supremacy is heresy. You will lose your job. You will lose your friends. You might lose your family. You will be put on watch lists and investigated and harassed by law enforcement. It's not an option for most of us.

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lipidslyProtestant•

Half of my extended family wont talk to me simply because i supported Trump, let alone knowing everything else.

They treat me like i murdered millions of babies in a clinical setting

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Welderhelp•

Imagine if they found out you were affiliated with a white supremacist group that spreads hate speech like "it's okay to be white". You might as well be a pedophile to them.

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lipidslyProtestant•

You might as well be a pedophile to them.

Nah, theyre fully supporters of roman polanski, woody allen, and lowering the age of consent

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La-poubelle•

Oh come on. Everyone knows "it's ok to be white" is a tactical play. Radical groups like yours say something like that, where it's obviously on it's face a non-offensive statement. But, in context, white supremacists are spreading it so lefties have to oppose it. You then get to turn around and say "See, they don't think it's ok to be white!!"

It's devious and an incredible strawman. No one believes that it's not actually ok to be white.

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SocialNationalism•

where it's obviously on it's face a non-offensive statement

And it turns out many find it offensive.

lefties have to oppose it

No they don't.

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Welderhelp•

No one believes that it's not actually ok to be white.

I'm not sure this is true. I guess it depends on how you interpret the statement. There is a lot of accepted hatred and expectation of collective guilt directed toward white people.

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AnalForklift•

Serious question: who is oppressing white people? Most politicians in Washington and most CEOs are white. Seems to me that if white people are oppressed it's by other white people.

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ChangeOfWindAgainst All Ideologies•

Are you talking about white (as in European) people, or fair-skinned people who happen to be Jewish?

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AnalForklift•

I wasn't really thinking about it, to be honest. I see Jews as white people, but I know not everyone does. Are most politicians and business owners Jews? That seems statistically unlikely.

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ChangeOfWindAgainst All Ideologies•

Jews are way over-represented in virtually every institution of power in the western world.

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KarneeKarnay•

Since when were jews another race? Anyone can be jewish. Can your point to some policies that advocate for jewish interests outside of other minority group rights and international policy regarding Israel?

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throwawaymeboyAlt-Right Strategist•

(((White))) CEOs

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SocialNationalism•

"Serious question"

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Dankmemepepe•

it's oppression that's carried out by society not the government

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AnalForklift•

Who in society is oppressing white people and how are they doing it?

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LudwigVonFranklin•

Its suppression of opinions. Try to say you think black and whites have different IQs and thats why theres such disparity and you will lose your job. Say you don't want whites to become a minority in there own countries and you are seen as a racist. Some people even think if you are against immigration your racist.

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AnalForklift•

Since most of the owners of those businesses are white wouldn't that be white people oppressing other white people?

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IMULTRAHARDCOREWhite Nationalist•

Many of them were infiltrated and more or less destroyed decades ago. As far as the US and UK are concerned we're more or less starting from scratch with a few thought leaders (Spencer, Taylor, Brimelow, etc) who may or may not actually be on our side after all.

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sleeppreset•

You can't run on white identity or white interests in a super majority white state. Whites has to be a minority or small plurality for that to work out game theory-wise. At least in a democracy where most people get to vote.

Because politics in a democracy is fundamentally about ginning up a 51% coalition on the promise of giving them the stuff of the remaining 49%.

So you can't get a winning coalition of 90%-100% of a population in a democracy, because then there isn't enough outsiders to take stuff from to bribe your voters with. If you do run on such a program someone else will take your voters by credibly promising them more loot.

Needless to say, democracy is evil and structurally incentivizes people to screw each other over through politics. But that's the system we have, so that's the game we have to play.

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white people take their whiteness for granted

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KarneeKarnay•

Firstly you have. They are called White Nationalists and Neo-Nazis. Secondly the vast majority of policies used today support white interests. It might not say white in the name or description, but if there is a cut on the interest rate of student loans, it's going to effect more white people than any other groups, because they are the majority. Simply put white people don't need political movements advocating for them, all politics for the most part already advocated for them, by default.

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SocialNationalism•

Who told you that?

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KarneeKarnay•

Um-I did. It's like defining white culture. If you are in Europe or the Americas, pretty much everything you see is white culture. It doesn't need to be defined, nor does it need movements to advocate for it.

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SocialNationalism•

Well, that is certainly an interesting theory that you definitely came up with by yourself. The system is already in favor of White people, which is why the system stigmitizes White people for not wanting to be pushed around within the system and allows crazies such as Nancy Pelosi into positions of power.

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KarneeKarnay•

Who is pushing white people around though? What policies are being pushed the hurt white people?

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mbonty•

You mean why does he possess the critical thinking skills necessary to make a valid point?

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SocialNationalism•

No, I'm asking who told them that.

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mbonty•

Point is an adult who can reason doesn't need to be told how to think but i'll leave that up for OP to answer.

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mbonty•

Every ethnic group wants the exact same things...jobs, opportunities, fair treatment, etc. so what exactly are white interests?

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572833•

If the ethnically Chinese people in Taiwan were on pace to have their majority replaced by whites, Mexicans and Africans, would you be as indifferent to their concern?

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mbonty•

Ethnically replaced? Are all whites going on some kind of vacation?

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572833•

Try again

If the ethnically Chinese people in Taiwan were on pace to have their majority replaced by whites, Mexicans and Africans, would you be as indifferent to their concern?

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mbonty•

Whats the big deal, minorities have it great in America and get tons of free stuff. You have nothing to worry about.

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Fish_In_Net•

If the ethnically Chinese people in Taiwan were on pace to have their majority replaced by whites, Mexicans and Africans, would you be as indifferent to their concern?

Yes I would be completely indifferent to demographic change in Taiwan due to immigration and shifts in birth rates.

As equally indifferent as I am about demographic change in America.

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572833•

Well that just makes you gay.

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Fish_In_Net•

Tru

Now make me care about demographic change in Taiwan.

I'm super desperate for something to belong to. I'm ready to join the AltTaiwan.

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SouthernIsraelite•
  1. The soul doctrine and the floaty place doctrine of the church. The soul doctrine teaches that you are not your physical being with its genetic and social heritage. Instead you are a light being bound to escape the tethers of the body at death and fly into the floaty place and thus the events of the physical world are not your concern. It is social suicide. This doctrine is also the basis for class warfare as equality of value is seen to be the soul and not man as is stated in Gen. 1:27-28 and 1 Cor. 11:7.The homosexuals also use this doctrine to buttress their insanity that they are women in men’s bodies, a female soul in a male body.

  2. The Church’s rejection of the Law of Moses. This teaches the people a moral relativism and mysticism and Pacifism. No one knows what part of the Bible they are supposed to do and the wedge drawn between the Old Testament and the New portrays the Old Testament as evil masculinity and the New Testament a mystic pacifistic Pietistic feminism. This inherent Preterism, teaching that all the types and shadows and Sabbaths were fulfilled at the time of Yeshua and now we are to submit to Rabbinic Talmudic Theology, a system hostile to the creator and the Messiah, with the Noahide laws, is precisely why Marxist ethics have conquered the Church.

  3. The doctrine of Angelic Celibacy. This doctrine demoralizes the Men into thinking that wanting a sexual relationship with a single woman is itself sinful. This is ground for hypocrisy and more hatred towards the creator for enacting laws totally contradictory to their nature. It also gives ground for Mystic Female moral supremacy.

  4. The doctrine of Dispensational Premillennialism. This doctrine denies the Kingship of Yeshua and creates a platform of Jewish racial supremacy and white racial subordination. The denial of Yeshua’s Kingship is grounds for Political pacifism and more social suicide.

  5. The doctrine of Arminianism or Pelagianism. This heresy teaches a Libertarian view of the will, individual sovereignty and that justice is defined by an equality of opportunity. It is the foundation of modern Liberal morality.

  6. Neo-Paganism is a self defeating position as it requires a return to Barbarism.

I could go on.

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PictureFrameWindowOPYou are more than an animal.•

If you don't have a libertarian view of the will, you have a God who is paradoxically merciful, all-powerful, and spiteful of the things he creates and destroys.

Neo-Paganism is a self defeating position as it requires a return to Barbarism.

Why do you say that?

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572833•

You're too uppity. No one will read a word of this.

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lilrubyridge•

the ultimate red pill is when you realize that the main factor working against white interests is white supremacy

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lilrubyridge•

Because actual intelligent people realise the interest of whites and melaninated people allign and are the exact same.

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572833•

Except rape

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