NAmember81•

All those hard working conservative workers will surely benefit from destroying unions, right?

This is Gorsuch’s chance to pay back his billionaire supporters.

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CpnStumpyColorado•

Anschutz

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DamnwhiskeyIllinois•

I pay my union dues with pride. And will gladly support my trade union as a separate entity to support and protect people like me who also pay their union dues. Collectively, we accomplish mush more for the better of our local, and for the better of our companies, and for the end user. It takes skilled workers in my trade and if you're not cutting it, chances are you're not working. Its survival of the fittest, and we work hard to hang on to the things we have, while we still have them. They have been trying to gut public sector unions for years, and even in places like Chicago found a way to get their hands on differed money pensions. What most people don't realize is that for the majority of it, workers pensions are considered allotment and payment to the individual employee. But yet like in the case of US Steel and I'm sure many other unions, go bankrupt, sell off assets, say they don't have enough money to pay pensions with, and then pocket huge checks upon bankruptcy. It's a twisted cycle that fucks the blue collar industry, and it's a shame that people who spend their whole lives with the promise of something end up getting fucked in the ass come time for retirement.

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Hippomom•

On the flip side, I was not a member of the teacher’s union. I was not covered by collective bargaining.

Why exactly did I have to pay anything to the union? Because they agreed to pay for school security? My employer can’t actually abdicate its responsibility for workplace safety and that includes providing a secure workplace.

Unions need to collect dues from union members and leave the rest of us (and our paychecks) alone.

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Thymdahl•

Then you can be exempt from the benefits the unions have bargained for. You can go in and bargain for your own health benefits and your own retirement benefits and all the other things you most certainly won't be bargaining for but will assuredly bitch about.

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Hippomom•

Yes. That is exactly how it works.

I was not covered by collective bargaining. I negotiated my own salary and benefits. I did not have the same salary or benefits package as the unionized teachers. But I had to pay the union every month because I was working in a unionized school district. Which is bullshit. I hope the practice ends with this case.

The union wanted teachers to be paid according to years of experience and degrees attained. But math and science teachers can command much better compensation packages on their own because there is a severe shortage of math and science teachers relative to (for example) elementary or special education teachers. We got higher salaries and much better benefits.

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DamnwhiskeyIllinois•

And you are retired as of now? 1

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Dargaro•

From my experience with unions, they want non members to pay the way of their own. In what world does that sound okay? If the crippling blow is not getting the funding from non-members, the union is already doomed. They're living off the backs of those not in line with their views. Unions should have never had access to employee paychecks that never joined the union. Fees for members is cool but keep your fingers out of my pocket.

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Thymdahl•

If you work for a union company you receive the benefits that union bargained for you. For you to say you don't want to pay union dues but you are perfectly ok taking advantage of those benefits the union fought for makes you nothing better than a leech.

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