Bill Introduced to Eliminate Ineffective EV Program
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planphilly.comPosted Mar 9, 2018, 3:03 PM UTC
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planphilly.comUnderutilized != ineffective
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True, but in this case it is.
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The failure to anticipate obstacles to charging in an urban environment is a failure of the EV industry, not a failure of the City. EV is also still in its infancy, and the ever-increasing pace of battery technology could soon render the curb-side charger obsolete. The only obligation the City has in this is managing public space efficiently, and that means encouraging less transportation by private vehicles in general, regardless of their fuel or operator.
This program was a giveaway to the relatively well-off for the appearance of sustainability while encouraging a method of transportation that is not sustainable, space-efficient, or equitable. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Another example of abuse of this program.. Entitled bitches in my neighborhood put a "Private Parking" sign on the electronic vehicle parking post. That shit is not private you shithead. Tempted every time I pass it to rip it down. Idk why i havent yet to be honest
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Shut that shit down.
Rip it to shreds
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This is one of the prices of living in the city: you probably shouldn't have a plug in vehicle.
Also, i would never do that on any block in a neighborhood: you're asking for people to fuck with your car.
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EVs are the way of the future, Philly being one of the cities that's failing to embrace them isn't a good look.
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I don't disagree with your first statement, but your second statement is completely ignoring the realities of the situation.
This is not an EV problem, this is a parking and parking-ownership problem. The program juxtaposes the needs of maybe 2% of car owners (last stat i saw was from 2013, and that was .62% of total cars on the road being electric. So i fudge the numbers and say 3x the amount of EV cars on the road today) over the needs of 98% of the rest of the car owners parking needs. Besides the moral implications of "I am in a situation where i can use an EV, so i deserve a parking spot that will pretty much be my exclusive parking spot," the fact of the matter is that Philly is not going to embrace any type of car/car infrastructure in the main part (sorry NE Philly), whether that is EV/Coal/Hydrogen/Gas/Tasty Kake powered, is beside the point.
Besides, biking still makes EVs look like Captain Planet villains, and Philly is pretty good (compared to the rest of the US, and major US cities) on the biking.
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This program has proved to be ineffective. I am all for EV ownership, but why continue an obsolete program that pisses everyone else off?
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I wasn't defending this specific program, I was just saying that Philly needs to drive up EV adoption in other more effective ways.
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I'm sorely tempted to unplug it when I walk by it. I wouldn't, but 12 year old me might have.
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This is one of the prices of living in the city: you probably shouldn't have a car.
FTFY
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If you want to be pendantic, you should probably replace "vehicle" with "car" since bicycles are vehicles.
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I do love being pedantic
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How dare you make me look like a fool on the internet. My ego will never recover, and i have to abandon this identity!
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Doesn't really work in a city like philadelphia where half the jobs that should be located in the city are spread out in the burbs do to the idiotic wage tax.
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A major problem for widespread EV adoption in cities is what went wrong with this program.
There is an inflection point of EV cars (by percentage) on the road for creating EV street parking spots. But I don't know how we get their fast enough to avoid all the problems. Like, if the city reserves 15% of spots for EV cars, but only 5% of cars are EV, then that just creates a surplus of parking spots that folks can't use.
Not to mention that EV spots need to be next to the home of the car owner, otherwise who is paying for that electricity?
I'm not a transportation planner, so I don't have full insight on these matters, but from the perspective of an educated observer, how the hell does this get solved?
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You mean like handicap spots that you're not allowed to park in at 7-11 even though every other spot is full and two of them are cops sitting there chatting through the window so you just sit there awkwardly and wait to pull into a spot while getting harasses by a psycho homless lady asking you for money
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Program was so stupid from the beginning. Why did the city think that privatizing on-street parking was a good idea? If i recall... didn't this idea originally come from Kenney's office years ago?
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Can I be the asshole that parks his SUV in an EV spot tonight? There's one right around the corner from me
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If you want a really expensive ticket, have at it. They can and do and will call the police.
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The scumbags shouldn’t have used them as space savers and maybe they could have kept them
elaborate please
People in my neighborhood use them as spot savers. They park the EV in the spot in front of the spot for the charger, then when their wife gets home, they move the car into the EV spot and boom, saved a space for later. People do it with handicap spots too it’s fucking trash
that's fucked up.
That's the main reason they're ending it. They should just double down and let people rent street spots from the city for $10k/yr or whatever. Solves the Tesla problem, creates revenue, etc etc.
Even if they weren't switching cars, it's still basically a private spot on a public street. I remember one of old neighbors had one. While everyone else is struggling to find parking in Center City, he was basically guaranteed a spot in front of his house.
They do this with handicap spots as well. Really fucking annoying
Where do they move the EV too? Doesn’t the PPA ticket non EV vehicles in EV spots?
The EV is put in the spot past the EV. Then wifey gets home and EV backs up to the open EV spot that nobody else can park in except him
The EV is parked in a regular spot. So they would move it for their wife's regular car while they moved their EV to the EV only spot, which presumably isn't taken since a lot of people don't have EVs.
Would you support getting rid of handicap spaces for the same reason?
I think the social benefit of handicap spaces is much more valuable than that of EV parking spaces. therefore it's hard to make that comparison.
I would support requiring handicap vehicles to be in the handicap spot they got the permits for so they can’t do this anymore