Math on the first buff vs the second iteration
First buff iteration:
Zed Q base: 220
Zed Q base second hit: 154
Zed Q scaling: 110%
Zed Q scaling second hit: 82%
Zed E scaling: 90%
Zed R1 damage multiplier: 125%
Zed R3 damage multiplier: 145%
WEQ combo
20 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 154 + 22 + 16 + 18 = 430
100 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 154 + 110 + 82 + 90 = 656
200 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 154 + 220 + 164 + 180 = 938
300 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 154 + 330 + 246 + 270 = 1220
R level 1 combos:
20 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 22 + 18)/100*125 = 325
100 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 110 + 90)/100*125 = 525
200 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 180)/100*125 = 775
300 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 330 + 270)/100*125 = 1025
400 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 440 + 360)/100*125 = 1275
20 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 22 + 16 + 18)/100*125 = 537
100 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 110 + 82 + 90)/100*125 = 820
200 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 220 + 164 + 180)/100*125 = 1172
300 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 330 + 246 + 270)/100*125 = 1525
400 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 440 + 328 + 360)/100*125 = 1877
20 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 22 + 16 + 16 + 18)/100*125 = 750
100 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 110 + 82 + 82 + 90)/100*125 = 1115
200 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 220 + 164 + 164 + 180)/100*125 = 1570
300 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 330 + 246 + 246 + 270)/100*125 = 2025
400 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 440 + 328 + 328 + 360)/100*125 = 2480
R level 3 combos:
20 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 22 + 18)/100*145 = 377
100 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 110 + 90)/100*145 = 609
200 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 180)/100*145 = 899
300 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 330 + 270)/100*145 = 1189
400 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 440 + 360)/100*145 = 1479
20 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 22 + 16 + 18)/100*145 = 623
100 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 110 + 82 + 90)/100*145 = 951
200 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 220 + 164 + 180)/100*145 = 1360
300 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 330 + 246 + 270)/100*145 = 1769
400 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 440 + 328 + 360)/100*145 = 2177
20 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 22 + 16 + 16 + 18)/100*145 = 870
100 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 110 + 82 + 82 + 90)/100*145 = 1293
200 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 220 + 164 + 164 + 180)/100*145 = 1821
300 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 330 + 246 + 246 + 270)/100*145 = 2349
400 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 154 + 154 + 440 + 328 + 328 + 360)/100*145 = 2876
Second buff iteration:
Zed Q base: 220
Zed Q base second hit: 220
Zed Q scaling: 90%
Zed Q scaling second hit: 90%
Zed E scaling: 80%
Zed R1 damage multiplier: 125%
Zed R3 damage multiplier: 155%
WEQ combo
20 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 220 + 18 + 18 + 16 = 492
100 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 220 + 90 + 90 + 80 = 700
200 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 220 + 180 + 180 + 160 = 960
300 AD full WEQ combo total: 220 + 220 + 270 + 270 + 240 = 1220
R level 1 combos:
20 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 18 + 16)/100*125 = 317
100 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 90 + 80)/100*125 = 487
200 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 180 + 160)/100*125 = 700
300 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 270 + 240)/100*125 = 912
400 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 360 + 320)/100*125 = 1125
20 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 18 + 18 + 16)/100*125 = 615
100 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 90 + 90 + 80)/100*125 = 875
200 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 180 + 180 + 160)/100*125 = 1200
300 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 270 + 270 + 240)/100*125 = 1525
400 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 360 + 360 + 320)/100*125 = 1850
20 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 18 + 18 + 18 + 16)/100*125 = 912
100 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 90 + 90 + 90 + 80)/100*125 = 1262
200 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 180 + 180 + 180 + 160)/100*125 = 1700
300 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 270 + 270 + 270 + 240)/100*125 = 2137
400 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 360 + 360 + 360 + 320)/100*125 = 2575
R level 3 combos:
20 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 18 + 16)/100*155 = 393
100 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 90 + 80)/100*155 = 604
200 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 180 + 160)/100*155 = 868
300 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 270 + 240)/100*155 = 1131
400 AD full REQ (single Q) combo total: (220 + 360 + 320)/100*155 = 1395
20 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 18 + 18 + 16)/100*155 = 762
100 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 90 + 90 + 80)/100*155 = 1085
200 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 180 + 180 + 160)/100*155 = 1488
300 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 270 + 270 + 240)/100*155 = 1891
400 AD full RWEQ (double Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 360 + 360 + 320)/100*155 = 2294
20 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 18 + 18 + 18 + 16)/100*155 = 1131
100 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 90 + 90 + 90 + 80)/100*155 = 1565
200 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 180 + 180 + 180 + 160)/100*155 = 2108
300 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 270 + 270 + 270 + 240)/100*155 = 2650
400 AD full RWEQ (triple Q) combo total: (220 + 220 + 220 + 360 + 360 + 360 + 320)/100*155 = 3193
Conclusion: The new iteration outshines the old one in most situations.
A simple WEQ combo will do more damage until the 300AD breakpoint, where the old buff will outscale.
Early mid game hitting 1Q under deathmark makes the old iteration win. Late game the damage is almost the same, shifting towards the new iterations the more you autoattack under deathmark while to the old one if you hit more E's.
Hitting more than 1Q under deathmark will make the new iteration win at any stage of the game.
Edit: formatting
Posted Mar 12, 2018, 9:34 PM UTC · edited