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Wrunnabe

This is an odd one, but DAE get bored of sleeping?

I've been lying in my bed for 4 hours and sleep hasn't came, no matter how tired I am. My brain goes on massive adventures and I find myself laughing. And I have so much urge to pick up the guitar, or practice tutting, or read a god damn book. My back log is so huge that it feels like a waste of time sleeping.

I've been trying meditation for 2 weeks now, and I've found myself making jokes at myself meditating and laughing. Wtf.

Posted Mar 18, 2018, 5:44 PM UTC

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roland00INTJ•

Be careful with antihistamines (technically inverse H1 antagonists and H1 inverse agonists). Antihistamines with sedating properties also have properties that encourage eating, both with whether you have an initial appetite causing you to be hungry but also disrupting the body ability to tell that you are full and you should reduce your appetite for you are full.

Note I am not saying antihistamines are bad, but this is a side effect you should be mindful of, and are aware that it happens.

  • Now when I say antihistamines that cause sedating properties understand there are different types of antihistamines and some cross the blood brain barrier and some do not. This is important for your body uses histamine for different things, lots of things (that is why I mention h1 antagonist or h1 inverse agonism earlier, h1 is a specific type of histamine receptor, other histamine receptors do other things.) Well if an antihistamine does not cross the blood brain barrier it will not have the sedating / sleep aid or weight gain properties, but if it does cross the blood brain barrier it will be sedating. If your goal is to control an immune response like an allergy or rash there are antihistamines that have these properties but do not cross the blood brain barrier affecting only the histamine system of the body which is a seperate histamine loop than what occurs in the brain.
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makesmecringeENFP•

What's so odd about a DAE post in this sub?

Ha, ha, ha! Zing!

Anyhow I wonder if instead of focusing on your mind you've tried focusing on your body? I suffer from an anxiety disorder and am often unable to stop worrying, but when I need to sleep, I run a "body scan" which is a simply meditation technique. I start from either the top of my head or the bottom of my feet and I slowly run a mental line over each part and demand the muscles in those areas to loosen up.

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

I use to do that, then i get insanely itchy haha. When I was practicing polyphasic sleep, it was the technique I used. Now, it seems I have alot less control over my body.

Btw, one of my jokes I came up for medication is why do you focus your legs first? Because it prevents you from trying to messi fake.

Why do you focus on your hands first? Because it prevents you from masturbate.

Yeah. I don't get sleep when I keep coming up with these.

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makesmecringeENFP•

Now, it seems I have alot less control over my body.

What changed?

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

No idea.

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makesmecringeENFP•

Give some thought to what your life was like when you could do polyphasic sleep and how it is now. Think about your circumstances such as your age, place of living, type of work, etc. Something changed. You may not be able to make the connection, but something has definitely changed.

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

No idea. It's like while I can still get them numb and sleepy, they will also sometimes shake, and on occasion, have feeling as though they just got hurt.

That's also aside from my urge to go have fun lol.

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makesmecringeENFP•

That's also aside from my urge to go have fun

Did you have these urges before?

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roland00INTJ•

Not an ENFP but in my mind for the EN_P types sleep is both the enemy and the greatest friend of EN_Ps depending on your energy level and how much the world exhausts you vs excites you and so on. Aka is the EN_P feeling like an extrovert or introvert right now, and why does she or he feel that way.

I've been trying meditation for 2 weeks now, and I've found myself making jokes at myself meditating and laughing. Wtf.

Cool, tell me more.

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Why do you meditate? So you don't have to medicate.

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roland00INTJ•

I am ADD / ADHD-PI. I do both, meditate and medication for they are synergistic, and they help in different ways, and they work better when you do both.

Well technically I do not do the medication right now due to insurance crap and blah blah...but you get my point. =P

 

 

But it was more of a comment tell me more about what types of jokes you tell yourself, how you feel different in your meditation, and so on. ^_^

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Hmm, I joke at whatever I'm meditating about, or meditation in general. The one I just told you is a pun I made up just tonight.

I can still managed to get my legs and arms to sleep, but the final sleeping part is so hard, and I find myself either cracking a joke, or on rate occasion feel like a body part cracked or something. The cracking joke part seems natural, the body part having an impulsive reaction to an imaginary pain, not so much.

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Btw, Sorry if I seem to be ignoring half your post bud. I'm just focusing on answering the parts I can contribute since I'm on my phone atm.

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Oh music! Oh my gosh, holy shit, you just reminded me of that one trick that was tried and true to me! Gosh, I haven't used music as a crutch for years!

Thanks man. I got a new little trick I'll be testing for the next few weeks. If I'm lucky, I'll be able to find my old play list that I built for sleep.

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mitchepie1ENFP•

yup, me too for the longest hecking time. i found a very weird solution that works for me: do 20 push ups a night. im no scientest, but my theroy is that by the end of the day, you still have some energy that you have not put out yet, and by doing the push ups, you exsaust your remaining energy

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I_Am_A_Polite_A-hole•

Like dogs with the nighttime zoomies!

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Dude I'm hella exhausted from my run and training and I'm still energetic! My mind fights my body man.

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mitchepie1ENFP•

woah, u have alot of energy

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Do you know when you're playing games like Civ or LOL, and you're obviously tired, but you totally wanna have one more turn/round? That's my body all the time

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makesmecringeENFP•

hecking

Utah, eh?

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mitchepie1ENFP•

nope, canada

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makesmecringeENFP•

Oh, way better.

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SylviaIsDaBombENFP•

Yeah, I always feel like sleeping is a waste of time. There's just so much that I want/need to do that I don't ever want to waste a second of life lying in bed and essentially doing nothing. Unfortunately, I have not yet found a way to conquer my human need for sleep, so sleep I must. sigh

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

I know right? Like, within the 5 hours I've been laying here, playing hookie with my phone, I could've been clearing my back log. But because I don't, and I'm even more tired during the day, my backlog grows bigger. Dang it.

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SylviaIsDaBombENFP•

Exactly. When I find the cure for needing sleep, I’ll let you know.

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WrunnabeOPENFP•

Thanks man. I can't wait for the day I become a cyborg too!

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IceCreamFortress•

Yes. I wish we don't need sleep :(

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carefreevermillionENFP•

Exercise until your body is fried, practice something until your mind is fried, then go to bed. Seems like you have a lot of energy you need to be burning off.

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rvi857ENFP•

Try reading a book before bed. It'll give you a short burst of productive satisfaction, and it'll be mentally stimulating enough to tire your brain out so sleep gets induced naturally.

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