An idea came to me a few weeks ago concerning the NFL and tonight’s No-goal call brings it to mind again.
When a goal goes to Toronto for review, should the refs be allowed to see the *play in slow motion?
A caveat to this. I say *play because I think they should use slow motion to determine a puck crossing the goal line as well as making sure it beats the buzzer, as those are binary yes/no situations.
Posted Apr 4, 2018, 3:07 AM UTC
I'm sympathetic to the argument that slow-mo shouldn't be used in offsides challenges. I'm not sure I agree, but I get it.
Everything else, use the available technology plz
I feel like it would be better for goalie interference. Offside reviews, for the most part, are fairly straightforward. If they changed the ruling of onside to breaking the pane of the blue line, it would be a far less controversial call. Goalie interference should be reviewed as a hockey play. We typically know there was contact, the judgement is whether the contact affected the play. That should be reviewed in real time only.
Yes, it should.
If it means getting the correct call even if it occasionally hurts my team? Yes.
100% it should. If you are going to take something to video review every view and speed of viewing should be available
Offsides no but goalie interference yes. Offsides should be if its blatantly obvious then its called back but if its within inches or millimetres then let it stand. Goalie interference can have alot going at once thats not apparent at full speed. Im gonna beat a dead horse here but Game 5 last year took the HNIC panel a few looks before Friedman spotted Keslers hand grabbing Talbots pad. I'm not saying the goal shouldve counted or not but in a case like that it took multiple reviews at slow motion to spot something that could qualify as goalie interference due to the chaos around the net.
Wait? They don't? I thought they already did and even went frame by frame if they needed to.
he's saying they do, but maybe they shouldn't. because it leads you to maybe believe things are there that aren't. Take late hits for example, shit looks way more late in slow mo.
Ah, I see it now. Thank you kind friend.
They’ve already introduced it. They’re not going to take it away.
I made a post about this earlier. I don't think they should. It makes the review time take longer. At best refs should get one replay of the play (at real time) from 2 or 3 angles just to cover for the instance where the ref missed something because of his vision being blocked. If they can't find anything to overturn their decision in max 20 seconds, go with the initial call. Intuition is right far more than it's wrong.
It's a game played at real speed judged by human eyes. The reviews will never be perfect but this whole breaking it down frame by frame to get it technically perfect is taking the soul out of the game.
They should be able to use whatever they need to if it helps get the call right.
But what if it makes the call wrong? In slow motion, small touches of .2 seconds can look like big shoves, and seeing things only in real time keeps all things even. If you need slow motion to change a call that looks good in real time, then the red on the ice would have never had a chance to make the correct call? I know that’s hyperbole, but it just seems like stuff like this is sucking the life out of all sports the last several years.
As soon as you get rid of slow motion you will have everyone complaining about it just like they are now.
The ref on the ice making wrong calls is why we have replays. If slow motion gets a call right, then slow motion is good. Limiting replay to some sort of "refs could have gotten it right" standard seems silly to me.
What if the refs or Toronto need 10 minutes of review and discussion to get the call right? We've already seen that a few times and pretty much everyone hated it. The standard should be "right enough", not "capital-R Right" because the latter steals some of the magic and excitement from the game, especially if it becomes a common occurrence.
Not my idea but I like it. They should put a time limit on reviews. If a decision isn’t made in 4 minutes after initiating the review then the call on the ice stands. Doesn’t have to be 4 minutes.