newkiwiguy•

I'm all for getting rid of the monarchy. It makes no sense to have someone on the other side of the world be our head of state. It makes no sense to have someone chose by accident of birth to the be the head of a democracy. It makes no sense to have someone required by law to be an Anglican and who in fact is the head of the Anglican Church as the head of a state with freedom of religion.

However I'm not keen on drastic constitutional changes. The Governor-General should simply become the new head of state, still ceremonial and lacking any power, still appointed by the Prime Minister of the day. We are ranked as one of the most efficient, open and least corrupt democracies on Earth so we don't need to change our actual system of government.

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Homeopathic_Maori•

Would this render the Treaty of Waitangi moot? Being an agreement between some tribes and the crown would complete independence from the crown not mean the treaty has run its course? Am I missing something there?

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myles_cassidy•

All rights & obligations from the Treaty would fall down onto the new republic, specifically onto the governing body of the new Head of State, which would succeed the crown.

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Homeopathic_Maori•

Yeah I posted the question then continued reading and got my answer but left this here in case others had the same question and/or didnt read the article.

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myles_cassidy•

I imagine that in reality though, it will not be as simple as that.

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sleemanj•

Trouble is, there really isn't much of a selling point to the public to be a republic.

There is little appreciable difference to Joe Public in how things work on a general basis now with our pretty much latent monarchy, and how it would work as a republic.

So it's a costly, divisive, controversial thing to do, with not really any particular tangible benefit to most people (no particular tangible downside either), the sun will still rise, you'll still pay taxes, you'll still have police in blue uniforms you'll still elect politicians under MMP, the Womens' Weekly will still fill it's pages with royal scandals, everything the public deals with will be just the same except there won't be quite so many pictures of the queen about the place.

It's not much a draw card is it.

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engapol123•

Trouble is, there really isn't much of a selling point to the public to be a republic.

This, I can understand the negative sentiment towards a dynastic head of state but going through the process of becoming a republic is like John Key's flag vanity project on steroids.

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myles_cassidy•

I think most people want to preserve the monarchy here because once we become a republic a huge can of worms is opened on the role of the Treaty and the place of Maoridom in general in a new government.

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nouncommittee•

That's a loaded headline.

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Homeopathic_Maori•

Agreed, A false dichotomy in an attempt to sway opinion

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Aenglaland•

If you don't vote to become a republic and allow the Chinese to take over then you're a Nazi British imperialist!

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honky_nz•

Haha. He so is.

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