[RAMBLE] Bevo Going Backwards to Go Forward

As you all know, I can’t half ramble about the Dogs - so I’m going to subject you to it again with a thought I’ve had over the 6 competitive games we’ve played so far this year. I promise I’ve only raided afltables for an obscure stat once for this, see if you can pick it out.


I reckon Bevo is going backwards to go forward. We all know that he’s a bit of a footy revolutionary. Over his first three years in charge he eschewed ruckmen altogether at times. He played players in new roles (Boydy, Picko etc.). I think he brought around a fully-fledged paradigm shift from Hawthorn’s surgeon-like footskills to a chaotic, hands-based game.

But after the failures of last year I think he’s had a bit of a rethink about how far he needs to deviate from the axioms of the game to overcome the 17 other teams. You could probably put this down to the comp catching up (I maintain that Richmond owes us a lot).

Essentially I think he’s returning to a traditional spine - partly because he has the right personnel to do so, but partly because it’s different to the lead he set for the comp in 2016.

Tim English is a traditional around the ground ruckman. He has the fitness to contest nine out of ten centre bounces & follow the ball all day. This will only improve, & I reckon he’ll be our undisputed top ruckman by the end of the season, & one of the best in the comp within a couple of years.
Bevo’s decision to run with him in this traditional role is in stark contrast to the days of Jongy going up against Naitanui, the exploitation of the third-man-up & the deployment of Roughy & Campbell at once to negate stars like Mumford & Goldstein.

This one I’m not so sure about yet, but I reckon Zaine Cordy is going to be a very good full-back. It comes down to his tenacity, which is his greatest trait. He’s not a fantastic kick, but he’s tough in one-on-ones, has great hands & has the guts to run off his man like Matthew Scarlett did. We’ll see where this goes as Naughton improves & when taller, stronger options like Marcus Adams come back into the fold.

But my main prediction is that he’s decided to value a traditional full-forward.
Jake Stringer was probably the closest we’ve had to a full-forward during Bevo’s reign, but he didn’t play it in a traditional way. Instead the CHF (Red or Boyd) would have to fulfil some of that role whilst also trying to get up the ground. This allowed Stringer to do his mercurial stuff, but as we know he could go missing a lot which created a hole (often filled by our smalls).
But I think two players especially are shaping up as traditional F50, full forward animals - Billy Gowers & Josh Dunkley. These guys are super strong, work hard &, unlike Stringer or Red, pluck pack marks. Apparently Dunkley is one of the hardest trainers at the club & you can see it in his follow up work. Gowers has mongrel & must have worked his arse off to play the first month after coming from the clouds. He’s got to get his fitness up, but he's had ten scoring shots in his first four games (Lockett only had seven, just quietly). There’s one issue that is rectifiable - they’re both pretty iffy kicks. If we’re smart we’ll invest in a specialist coach or at least get Gia to spend a lot of time on it with them.


So how do you guys see this playing out? This is really just a prediction at the moment, but Bevo’s success came as a result of differentiating us from the other sides, rather than simply try & beat them at their own game (like the great Geelong & Hawthorn teams did for the decade beforehand). I reckon he’s doing the same thing by returning to some fundamentals, & some unfashionable team roles. We’ll see how it comes together over the course of the season.

Posted Apr 19, 2018, 2:06 AM UTC

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Sioreth•

It seems to me that we've just had quite a large player turnover since 2016 and Bevo is just working with the tools he has available.

If he was really trying to force a gameplan around a strong spine, wouldn't Boyd be getting matches so he could develop as part of that plan?

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wildlyoscillateTony Liberatore•

Boyd's had mental health issues and resultingly has been out of form. That's why he's not being played. Strong rumours he'll be in this week.

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cheesedotcom•

Yeah, maybe Boyd himself didn't feel ready

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LordSifterOP•

Hmm good point - to be fair I think Boyd should be playing whatever the overall plan is. It's, what, 15 games since he last played? A lot's happened since then (styles, personnel, a whole pre-season). Getting him fit & confident in the VFL is all well & good, but he can only assimilate into new styles/line-ups in the ones.

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mesothrawny•

You would think he gets selected this week? After he kicked 5, personally I'd love to see him just play out of ff and chop out English occasionally

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Cloudeth•

In the last two games the new style has really come out. Maybe it just took them a bit to get used to it.

You can see the old handball run-and-gun style in there. We still use it to get out of tight places. Once it's out though, we seem to be trying that old Hawthorn style possession game. Instead of bombing it long, it's hit up short kicks, go backwards if we need to create room, switch it around, play around the 50 arc until something presents, then hit up the forward and take a shot on goal. The F50 has been a lot less chaotic in the past two games. Part of that is finally having some smart hard-working forwards in Dickson, Gowers, Redpath, Dunkley, Dale and Bont at times.

It's a very high-possession game, and when we've got it working the last two weeks, Essendon and Sydney were completely unable to touch the ball for long periods. If we had kicked the goals, we would have smashed both of them.

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trans-adzo-express•

Agree with what you've said. Non-dogs fans wouldn't pay much attention to the level of player turnover since the flag, we've really done a mini rebuild in the last twelve months, forced to throw a lot of kids in which we will benefit from soon.

The comment about Cordy is spot on. He's still so young and was one of very few to hold his head high after the first two games.

We still have an extremely young list, I personally felt like there is a bit of that 2015 unknown hype feeling returning after the last couple of games.

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wildlyoscillateTony Liberatore•

Agree with a lot of this, except that Dunkley and Gowers are traditional full forward types. More strong marking medium forwards that work around a FF. Redpath has played that role the last couple games, hopefully Boyd can be that soon.

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OnetyOne1•

Great write up, definitely agree with you on English. For a fella of his size and experience in the ruck position he's been absolutely fantastic and is easily the best around-the-ground ruckman we have at the club which we all know is what Bevo values.

Also love how we've moved the ball the last two weeks, as you pointed out, very much in the vein of Hawthorn of previous years. I've been very sceptical about our ball skills the past two years, particularly because of our young and 'gritty' (as opposed to straight up talented) midfield, but have been nothing but impressed in recent weeks.

I'm not sure if anyone has taken notice, but in the last year or so, both on this subreddit and on r/AFL, I've really started to love Zaine Cordy. I think he's one of our most important players at the moment and very under-valued by supporters at this stage. You're 100% right about his tenacity; must have spent some considerable time training with Morris no doubt. But I have to disagree with you about his kicking skills. It's not the most fluid motion, especially on his left foot, but I find he's very deliberate with his kicks and will way more often than not hit his targets, even the very risky ones through between opposition defenders, and through the corridor. Also his marking is low-key great. Might not be quite the intercept-marker that Adams is, or Wood was a couple years ago, but I feel very confident knowing Cordy is in the backline when the ball goes inside 50. Think the game last week might have been a little different had Cordy been in.

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gatsuby•

Bevo: My fellow Bulldogs, as a young boy I dreamed of being a football. But tonight I say we must move forward, not backward! Upward, not forward! And always twirling, twirling, twirling towards goals!

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