‘2001’ Unrestored 70mm Trailer: Christopher Nolan Presents the Definitive Edition of Kubrick’s Masterpiece

http://www.indiewire.com/2018/04/2001-a-space-odyssey-unrestored-70mm-trailer-christopher-nolan-1201955137/

Not strictly related to Criterion, but related to film/restoration in general.

What are your thoughts on this? Something that leapt out to me is this:

"This is the unrestored film - that recreates the cinematic event that audiences experienced fifty years ago," says Christopher Nolan about the new restoration.

Isn't that a bit paradoxical?

“For the first time since the original release, this 70mm print was struck from new printing elements made from the original camera negative,” Nolan explains. “This is a true photochemical film recreation. There are no digital tricks, remastered effects, or revisionist edits. This is the unrestored film – that recreates the cinematic event that audiences experienced fifty years ago.”

It seems that Mr. Nolan is conflating restoration of a film with revising a film. I think most film buffs would agree that there is a huge difference between restoring a film (making a film's image look clear and crisp by removing damage from age so it looks new) and revising a film (adding new digital effects, changing colors, or even adding new scenes or removing scenes). The former is what Criterion does, and the goal is generally to make it look as close to the original vision of the director as possible. The latter is what George Lucas did with Star Wars, and what studios did with Terminator 2 and Predator, and it is generally viewed as negative by fans.

So I feel touting this as "unrestored" is just kind of a bizarre marketing gimmick that misses the point of restoration. An unrestored copy of the film would be marred by age and generally look pretty bad. A restored print of the film would look closer to what audiences saw in the theaters back in the 60s.

Furthermore, here is the trailer for Nolan's new release. People elsewhere on reddit are noting how different the colors look compared to previous blu ray releases. Now, it is possible that this discrepancy in color is due to the trailer editing house trying to make it look like a modern movie. This is plausible, as the whole trailer has a very "modern" vibe to it. It honestly reminded me of the 2016 Ghostbusters trailer with the "50 years ago" title. And I see some people in the YT comments initially thought this a was a trailer for a remake/reboot of the original (without context I can understand why they'd be confused if this popped up in their feed). This is a 50-year-old hard science-fiction movie cut into a modern action-blockbuster trailer. But if this is actually what Nolan's "unrestored" version looks like, then I am very confused how he thinks he is being faithful to the original.

Thoughts?

Posted Apr 21, 2018, 7:35 AM UTC · edited

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Cinefile1980•

From what I gather, I think Nolan intended to say that this 70MM print that is being toured is not a 4K scan of the original elements (put through any computers or whatnot), but rather actual celluloid from the original elements that have in fact been cleaned up, restored and compiled into a complete film and thereby preserving that genuine warmth to film that he talks often about. Obviously the disc version we’ll be getting is from a 4K scan but this one will preserve the way it looked fifty years ago—hence “unrestored”; so not as sharp and colorful as we’ll be seeing it on our 4K TVs.

That’s at least how I read it.

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th3cr1t1c•

Well, technically going back to a pristine negative isn't a restoration. They're just producing a new interpositive from the original negative.

If that's what they did, then this is not a restoration.

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HarryMcFann•

Seems weird, considering how often he professes his love of celluloid, that this little blurb from him suggests Nolan knows less about the restoration and distribution process than your average videophile.

I saw a 70mm print of 2002 at Lincoln Center back in 2012, and while there were the expected imperfections here and there, the print was extremely clean. 2001 seems like a movie that has been well preserved over the decades and there are clean prints of it out there to watch already. The fact that this print is apparently going "on tour" after Cannes, makes me think this is some sort of weird publicity stunt.

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cabose7•

I mean I always thought theater tours of restorations were pretty explicitly PR tours for upcoming bluray releases

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HarryMcFann•

But that's not what this is, which is why it's bizarre. This isn't a new restoration, it appears to just be a new, clean print from the negative. And like I stated above, clean prints aren't really rare.

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chrisjdgrady•

I guess I can understand the novelty of seeing the film the same way people saw it when it first came out, especially for people that have never seen it on the big screen.

That said, the trailer editors did what looks like some serious color grading. It looks like a Nolan film, actually.

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Crispy_socks241•

Christopher Nolan is a pretentious douchebag.

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Athenian_Dubstep•

I checked the date of the article to see if it was an April Fools joke. It's almost like Nolan is speaking like Ken M.

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anttiom•

Nolan’s film obsession is completely ridiculous, especially when it comes to shooting his movies on film. This is 2018 and shooting digital is not like when Michael Mann or David Lynch did it in early 2000s.

Same goes for film restoration and obsession for screening movies from film. There is a novelty to watching old copies and the nostalgia is fun, but if you want to archive the films, digital is the way.

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Lamecat443•

definitive

Please explain how the colour grading is WAYYY off then? (top pic 35mm scan | bottom pic 70mm trailer)

https://i.imgur.com/TUf1M38.jpg

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pepsi_onion•

Is there a list of theaters this is coming to yet? There are a few theaters near me that have a 70mm projector still after The Hateful Eight so I'm hoping this gets a good tour.

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Appledomo•

There's a theater in Boston that's getting it in June.

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MaskedUploader•

It makes more sense when you realize that they can digitally change/tune colors with no notable complications. They could make 2001 look modern, they could remove grain, they could make the individual colors pop more. But they didn't. They made a 70mm dupe that looks like the original negative.

The trailer doesn't represent that. It's aimed at a wider audience. Somebody that knows Nolan but doesn't really know Kubrick.

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Rugby11•

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZCZfzDTkuY Many questions in here indeed

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Cinefile1980•

Not sure how this is Nolan being pretentious. ?? He’s talking up the presentation of something that most people haven’t had the chance to experience. Clearly he has a wide fan base and is using that to spread the word that this is something amazing people will have the chance to see: an identical presentation from fifty years ago. It’s not like he’s saying it’ll be just as great as seeing Interstellar in IMAX. He’s big on film preservation. Good for him. Also, as a side note, for someone like Kubrick who was so specific with every single detail of his films, I don’t think any such digital tampering (outside of maybe grain reduction) should be utilized. Changing the color timing in any way-even in the slightest—I feel, would truly alter what he had intended.

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John0517•

Oh yeah? A digital trailer of your pristine 70mm Unrestored Restoration? I get that it's a new positive taken from the original negative but come on. This is just pretentious.

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