Understanding the distinction between friendly banter and heated antagonism
Posted Apr 24, 2018, 4:22 AM UTC
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If I learned one thing on r/soccer it's that Americans don't know shit about banter.
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Americans don't know shit about banter.
Or football
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What? Pusilic is the second coming of Christ and the USA has a better chance of winning the World Cup this year than England does.
/s
Actually, sorry. Maybe that last part is true.
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the USA has a better chance of winning the World Cup this year than England does.
Well....
Actually, sorry. Maybe that last part is true.
Oh ok, carry on then.
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"cries tears of cheap lager"
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At least not on Reddit, fucking Christ
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They don't give a crud.
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False.
We fight.
And win!
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You’re not being downvoted for being an American. You’re being downvoted for being a cunt.
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I wouldn’t say it was offensive it just wasn’t a funny joke lol. Maybe twat would have been a better word to use.
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"Healthy relationships"
"Get off of my lawn or I will legally shoot and kill you"
Choose one of these, you cannot have both.
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Legally shoot to kill before even telling to leave you mean
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I, for one, can't wait to learn all about healthy relationships from this person.
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I swear I’ve seen these comments before and I think they may be from a Let’s Drown Out video. I am pulling this out my arse though.
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Yahtzee?
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Yeah I think it's from one of his and Gabe's lesser arguments but I could absolutely be wrong.
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Why do Americans have to be so smug and fucking gloaty
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They’re drilled from an early age to think they’re the best. That way their government can send poor kids to oil wars and deprive people of healthcare and worker’s rights. Having a stupid but confident population means the government can do whatever it wants. See: the Patriot Act, they literally took away people’s human rights (freedom!) and got away with it because they used one of their buzzwords
TL;DR The annoying mix of stupid and confident
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Indoctrination begins at a young age. Such as being taught to say the pledge of allegiance at the start of every school day.
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As an Aussie, I had no idea this is a thing until recently. In fact I think most of the world has no idea and would be a little shocked if they did know. It's ridiculous.
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As an American, I thought it was completely normal until I got a little older. Its truly bizarre. Same thing with the national anthem being played before every game in all of our major sports leagues.
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It is normal in dictatorships though. Don't mean to offend, I'm just stating a fact, see North Korea for the most extreme examples of this practice.
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In the UK this is only done in an international match
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You don't have to say it, you are just strongly encourage to because you will be harassed by adults and children if you don't.
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They’re not. Only the dumbest ones are. Sadly they’re the most outspoken on social media about stuff like this though.
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The squeaky wheel gets the oil, sort of thing. That "ignorant exceptionalism" is an entire industry here.
What you don't ever see are the measured, reasonable Americans voicing their thoughts and opinions on things like this. Mostly because they generally are either more useful with their time or because it doesn't move the needle when it comes to attention. So the majority of the noise people react to are the ignorant outliers.
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So, only like half of them.
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Healthy relationships means suppressing everything more unfriendly than the emptiest smile with violence.
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No wonder late night talk show hosts beat them over the head with the same joke repeatedly if they can't find subtlety in humour like these kinds of exchanges.
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Judging from US sitcoms, subtlety just isn't a thing over there.
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Yeah, make joke, then explain joke.
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The problem with America is this: ‘An armed society is a polite society.’
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Ehhhh, as a Canadian I’m not so sure about that..... To what point does it mean “armed” though ?
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Hockey gloves are just as dangerous as hand guns. I'm not sure you're a reliable source.
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I'm living in the USA in a city the same size as my hometown (Liverpool). I can attest this is true, as I've seen none of the crazy mindless violence i saw in Liverpool.
IN MY EXPERIENCE I SHOULD ADD.
(Now watch these DVs)
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Fairly sure the only reason you're getting down votes is cos you said watch these down votes
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Im always happy to oblige someone winging about downvotes
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Oh yes. It's quite the pleasure.
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You're probably right!
Watch these upvotes!! (Dubious)
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Don't worry, I'll give you an up vote <3
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Watch this Gold! (not fucking happening but I'll beg for it like the karmawhore I am).
Inb4 reddit lets you spend karma for gold, at a cost of 10k/month. (I just about make that much karma per month so I'd be breaking even).
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Oh look, it's you. North Carolina has more crime and a higher homicide rate than your hometown btw
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Yes, it has about the national average homicide rate. That being said, and as I've said before, you have to go out of your way to be murdered here, gangs, drugs, etc. In the UK it comes and finds you.
And as for crime rate in general, no fucking way. As if you've looked up the burglary and assault figures for Liverpool. It's hard enough to find figures broken down for each county, let alone for a city within a force area. Stuff like burglary and mindless aasaults in the UK are through the roof. You forget that i used to see the raw data as it came in, before a burglary was recrimed as theft, criminal damage, attempted CD, theft (dwelling), etc.
But here's some stuff that you won't want to hear but shows that your assumption that "of course America is worse in all aspects of crime":
Murder rate for London officially surpassed NYC
Burglary rate NYC / London (almost identical populations) 2011-2016:
NYC - 75K
London - 485K
Not everything is as black and white as you make out.
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Murder rate for London officially surpassed NYC
This is an incredibly misleading statement, as it's the first time London's murder rate has ever overtaken NYC's, it's only for February and March this year, and it's by a tiny margin. NYC had enough murders in January to completely wipe out the lead London had in those two months, and comparing year by year, London has half or less of the murders New York has.
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Murder rate for London officially surpassed NYC
It’s official folks. It’s not just being born in America that turns your brain to fucking jelly. It affects people who move there too!
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NYC had 3x the amount of murders last year, even though it's been the lowest since 1945.
London (12.4 murders per 100,000) is the second most dangerous city in the UK, with only Boston being more dangerous. NYC is the safest of the 5 major US cities. Chicago is the most dangerous, with a murder rate of 27.7 per 100,000. That's just major cities. Chicago is nowhere near as bad as the worst cities in the US. Detroit had a murder rate of 43.89 per 100,000.
Liverpool is actually one of the safest cities in the UK. Soz mate, but you're wrong. Moving from a poor part of Liverpool to a wealthy part of North Carolina might be skewing your perspective, but the numbers are much worse in your new country.
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Well, here in Orlando, I've had three murders next door to me.
The first one was 11 years ago when one of my neighbors were killed in his apartment, just a few doors down.
Last year, I had 2 murders where I now live. One was stabbed to death in his bed the other was a guy shot outside in a small forest area next to where I live. Woke up one Saturday morning and looked out on a collection of police cars and a roped off area.
It all depends on where you live and I live in a normally quite white area with not much crime to be honest but still.
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If we can longer link threads, can we have a rule that context must be included?! I have no idea what they're talking about. This sub isn't fun to read anymore :(
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My guess: The banter between Yahtzee and Gabe on "Let's Drown Out". Particularily this episode.
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oh shit I forgot about Let's Drown Out
I started watching it just as they did their final episode. Fuck. Apparently there's more shit that I haven't seen.
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I wasn't sure I'd be allowed to post context but a few people are wondering so here it is :)
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"Humanity"® by The US of A.
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I wonder what Americans would think about the relationship between the Scandinavian countries, lol. It's a reason we call the countries 'brothers'. We show hate, but we feel love.
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I hope people that are not from America realize that not all Americans are like these people. Mant of us are actually reasonable and mildly intelligent.
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I know, I know. Perhaps the reasonable and mildly intelligent majority should take a bit more responsible to steer your society in a better direction? ;)
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I am glad they are coming to our rescue. We are saved.
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Jesus Christ no. Americans have toxic social relationships, they can keep that way the hell away from the rest of the world... One of my best friends has different politics than I do and we talk politics all the time. He's still one of my best friends.
As far as I can tell from some family I have in the U.S., that seems to have a hard time existing in family, let alone friendships.
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Americans do not have "toxic social relationships." That is such a broad and wildly untrue statement. Outspoken social media twits may make what you're saying seem true, but think about it more deeply.
EDIT: a word
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Is this from comments to Let's Drown Out? It would fit.
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I'm pretty certain I saw this thread on one of those years ago.
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Haha yes! (edited)https://youtu.be/oKo-BIL8qE8?t=1297
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The Super Mario 2 one?
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That would've been my third guess, after the whole "Game of the Year" shebang, wherever that was.
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It's true! "Distinction between friendly banter and heated antagonism" is pretty high up on the tech tree. I think its prerequisites are "Highly Evolved Discourse", "Nationalism", and "The Wheel".
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And then Gandhi nukes you.
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oi, ya fucking cunt innit
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To be fair, a lot of what the Brits call "banter" is them just being unwitty cunts.
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This is true, but it's sometimes subtle and not everyone can distinguish :)
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We all know the reason the pilgrims left England was because they couldnt handle the bants.
And the aussies got sent away because they took the bants too far.
This... sorta fits.
Nah we just couldn't stand the winging poms so committed minor crime to get transported somewhere better.
Once there we started a new breakfast fashion. 2 teaspoons of concrete in our coffee each morning.
"Somewhere better."
So this is like a snack yeah?
In Canada (or at least the parts I know) we call it chirping. It's not quite the same as banter but it's in the same vein and it tends to confuse Americans a bit.