Rumor on the street is The Frog has "had it up to here" (holding my hand up horizontally around the middle of my forehead) with Munzee piggybacking on Geocaching Mega events.
Posted May 7, 2018, 10:21 PM UTC
What about them damn Pokemon? :P
Oooooooooo. Very interesting. Why is it a problem? I must have a look at the event page to see if I can figure out what's happening.
I had heard through the grapevine there was lots of chatter at a Munzee facebook group today. This is not unprecedented, The Frog once went Bonkers over Garmin's opencaching.com being a sponsor of MEGA events, and demanded a stop to it, during that site's 5 year existence. I, for the record, think this is all ridiculous. The Frog can get pretty vindictive.
I can't say how I know, but Groundspeak has threatened to withdraw GIGA status over the GW organizers not being openly hostile to Munzee activities during Geowoodstock.
Many people know this. Does this mean NC was openly hostile to Munzee last year? :-)
No. See my post.
this is pretty ridiculous. being hostile towards and not supporting something aren't the same thing.
Do you have a man on the inside?
I do. And his name is Keystone AKA GeoLeprechaun on Reddit. That was a bad joke, no I don't.
One can argue geocaching is piggybacking on an amusement park to prop up the numbers. Munzee sucks now, it's almost strictly a pay for points model (virtual munzees, bomb munzees) and the spoofing is rampant. Munzee was more fun when it first started and just was about scanning codes.
Wft is Munzee???
I wonder if this is related to all the Geowoodstock/Munzee drama too. Hey lackies, you don't own the ground and some of your customers play both games, so get over it.
It's clearly stated that if you want to hold a mega / giga you can't promote other games. Pretty simple.
We had munzee events held by folks at our gw last year; no official presence but their call and were left alone. I did object very early in the day though to the munzee organizer when I noticed munzee qr code stickers appearing all over the freaking event location (a county fairground) without any request. The location had previously asked us to not use stickers anywhere. Embarrassing.
The owners of Munzee have now on purpose put "1,000s" of virtual munzees at the location on purpose in order to profit off the work of geocachers. As much as I have problems with Groundspeak, I respect the hard effort volunteers do to put on GeoWoodstock and to have company like Munzee try to suck money from it is horrible.
They did at last gw, and likely others before that. It didn't interfere with anything going on.
It's clearly stated that if you want to hold a mega / giga you can't promote other games. Pretty simple.
Just because it's "clearly stated" doesn't make it right, does it? They are so vindictive towards anything they consider competition. It's just bizarre. Is this normal behavior amongst small businesses with about 80 employees? Not that I've personally seen. I don't care what field the company is in. Lets say they manufacture widgets.
It means, to me, that you enter the agreement knowing that in advance.
Or, it could've been an accidental slip of the mouse button. The "lock listing" button on the reviewer's version of a cache page is in between "edit listing" and "post reviewer note." It's pretty easy to click on the wrong spot, and there is no "Are you sure?" alert.
But hey, in a world of "fake news," imagined drama is way more fun, right? So, carry on.
Given my prior experiences, I have no problem believing that this was more likely a result of somebody at Geocaching.com messing up than it being attributable to intentional pro-active/preventative resolution of a potential problem.
It could have been a Geocaching.com Lackey, or it could have been any of the many reviewers who plan to attend the event, and were browsing the cache page. Any one of them could have clicked the wrong spot on the screen. Neither Geocaching.com nor the local volunteer reviewer knows what happened. The event organizers, in posts to the event's Facebook page, corroborate that this was just a slip-up.
Definitely imagined. No one at GC cares about Munzee or considers it a competitor.
Funny guy. Just considering someone a competitor is one thing. We have something a just a little more extreme here. And by that, I mean their attitude towards Munzee, not necessarily if the locking of the cache page was related. If you don't know that GW 2018 has been threatened with losing their Giga Status for not being openly hostile to Munzee, you are probably living in a cave.
I’m not living in a cave, I’m just not wearing a tinfoil hat.
I'm afraid I can't tell if you think that I am wearing the tinfoil hat, or TPTB at Groundspeak, Inc., DBA Geocaching are. I definitely think the later.
Do I have you on ignore? Apparently not, I'll have to fix that. I'm just reporting lots of chatter at a Munzee facebook group today. One cannot deny The Frog threatening Mega owners over Opencaching.com being a Sponsor during their 5 year existence. And Berkshire Geobash, within the past two years or so, being read the riot act over Munzee.