Found a helpful infographic. Could be handy to respond with this when people forget what Bitcoin is called...

Found a helpful infographic. Could be handy to respond with this when people forget what Bitcoin is called...

Posted May 12, 2018, 12:40 AM UTC

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paullampard•

BCH chose for itself the name of Bitcoin Cash, then tries to take the name of Bitcoin and wants to force BTC to be called Bitcoin Core. Whatever its technical merits, what it is doing is malicious and unprincipled.

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BashCo•

copy/paste: His strategy since Bcash was created in August 2017 has been:

  • Maintain extremely similar branding to Bitcoin, force "Bitcoin Cash" aggressively through intimidation

  • Attempt to rename Bitcoin to "Bitcoin Core" to make them more 'similar' from a branding standpoint

  • Erode Bitcoin's brand as much as possible with lies and deceit through negative marketing

some business use it as a way of getting their products into the limelight because the strategy works after all

  • Gradually drop "Cash" from the "Bitcoin Cash" moniker

  • Hope and pray that Bitcoin dies and nobody notices that an inferior altcoin that he loaded up on took its place

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

Sounds like Gavin Belson. lol

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majestic_12inch•

You just inspired me to fire up paint and make a new Bcash logo ;D

https://i.imgur.com/v5mo1Pr.jpg

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StopAndDecrypt•

Would you mind if I copy/pasted your idea, and made it better with bigger blocks balls?

edit: done

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tommyfknshelby•

Doesn't that look like a...?

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SuperGoxxer•

"The logo should be bigger, the box should be bigger... just make it all BIGGER"

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MrOwnageQc•

"Consider, the snake.."

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Godex_ioredditor for 2 months•

Sounds like Dr.Evil plan)

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yogibreakdance•

Yes bcash is a phony fuck just like its investors

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nyaaaa•

Don't forget when they so vehemently insisted to call it BCC at the beginning.

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BashCo•

It was even called BCC on Bitcoin(dot)com. In fact, they even rightfully refer to it as the 'new token' that it was. https://archive.is/fCbpa

Two blocks have been mined on the new Bitcoin Cash blockchain.

Over the past week, the central theme of discussion has been the August 1 hard fork and the possible birth of a new token called ‘Bitcoin Cash’ (BCC). [...]

Today a whole lot of people have been patiently waiting for the user-activated hard fork (UAHF) to commence and the coming of the new digital currency Bitcoin Cash.

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bitmaincashredditor for 3 months•

Apparently, this was before they began the manipulation campaign. If Bitcoin Cash is the "true" vision and appeals to more people or is more useful as they purport then it will be successful without any of these carefully considered tactics. Does their use of these tactics imply they don't really think this?

Especially considering these tricks quite blatantly turn off the entire Crypto community and only work on new-comers....these actions would seem to be more of a hindrance than a benefit if they truly believed their fork could be successful in its own right. To be honest from what I can tell there is something extremely fishy about their behaviour.

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Amichateur•

maybe roger knows this and tries to destroy bcash longterm with his campaign in this subtle way. but i do not really think so...

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Z0ey•

Bitconneeeeeeeectt!!!

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typtyphus•

some still have bcc for bitcoin cash

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SweetIsland•

If they would stop with that nonsense I would actually respect the BCH ecosystem more. It has it valid uses. But the obsession of stealing the Bitcoin name just kills it for me.

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psionides•

They do it (well, some of them at least) because they genuinely believe that their branch of the fork has more right to call itself Bitcoin because it's more similar to what Bitcoin was before 2017, so at least some of them don't do this out of malicious intentions but purely a different perspective... (well, that's what I'd like to believe, don't ruin my faith in humanity).

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UpstairsAdagioredditor for 3 months•

Coingeek actually calls it bitcoin segwit. Just sayin

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paintedfrogOP•

Calvin has decided to call Bitcoin whatever pops into his head at the moment. He's a very confused man

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typtyphus•

wow, so I did an on-chain atomic swap all this time. /s

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SuperGoxxer•

Lyin' Ver and his band of merry forktards, lol.

That dude is going to have a mental breakdown, and it will be amusing to watch.

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Stolenaccount34redditor for 6 weeks•

You can call it what ever you want, follow the technology and buy today,

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paintedfrogOP•

You can call it what ever you want

Not if you want to be intelligible

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Stolenaccount34redditor for 6 weeks•

Intelligible? You seek to be understood? Than have understanding.

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nxqv•

Do you seek to have asperger's?

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GeneralAsthar•

The word you are looking for is "then". "Then have understanding."

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bitmaincashredditor for 3 months•

The project clearly seeks to be understood, people speaking about a subject clearly seek to be understood. His terminology is perfectly correct.

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jvalordv•

If the tech was that blatantly superior, they wouldn't need to resort to these transparent underhanded tricks. For that alone, I have never and will never touch it.

I feel dirty even shorting it on Mex because I don't want to give it the volume.

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Stolenaccount34redditor for 6 weeks•

I cant speak for others, but in the past every major technological advancement was met with competition. Whether it be Windows NT, Open GL, Red Hat Linux, the latest Intel processors, the use of HTML for web pages, each was given its opportunity and succeeded or failed on its merit. But only with cybercurrency has completion become a political shitstorm with little to gain by posturing.

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paintedfrogOP•

Did competitors of TCP/IP replace it? No. Read up on the Lindy Effect

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douser21redditor for 3 months•

Yeah right, you can call it btc or father of crypto.

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Richard__Grayson•

Someone needs to make a coin called “BCASH” so people accidentally buy it when they want to buy bitcoin-cash.

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King_of_Dew•

I'll fork it with you and make sure we own 51% for safety reasons...

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AquilaK•

Already exists.

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MertsA•

r/btc actually created a Zcash fork and named it Bcash... They were that petty.

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comrade-jim•

Maybe a better idea would be to just start referring to everything by unique stock symbols.

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dubblies•

This needs to happen. According to ver its insult to bitcoin cash so its fair game.

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Cykablast3r•

Already exists.

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Gonespral•

Ooohhh yeeeaa

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noad1001•

Can some one creat a fork of bitcoin and call it bitcoin core this might be helpful down the road.

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mgarrison3389•

There is already a Bitcore coin

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obeCHuD•
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moon401kredditor for 1 week•

That's the software for Bitcoin, not the cryptocurrency itself

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obeCHuD•

Yes the bitcoin core client, which had its name long before BHC forked in.

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Amichateur•

I wanted to write the same.

Yes, would be helpful. Like that dummy bcash project that was created just to allow bitcoin cash shills to slam those calling bitcoin cash bcash.

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antimatteradamredditor for 3 months•

I support this

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ravi_ramaraoredditor for 3 months•

Yes this is the only way to teach those dumbass BCash supporters.

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talks_about_stuff•

Dont forget r/btc

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Tettor•

Ahhhh r/btc, the T_D of crypto

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JWSACS•

Lmaoooo, this sub is the fucking epitome of the Donald. Stubborn, closed-minded circle jerks is what comes to mind. Anything even slightly against the agenda and you’ll get instabanned from either subreddit, just like I probably will for this comment. But remind me again which subreddit has the most resemblance to T_D.

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paintedfrogOP•

Simply read the displayed rules of the sub and abide by them. It's really not that complicated.

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dubblies•

I post wild shit all the time yet here i am. This isnt true.

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Luffydude•

IDK man, atleast t_d has some swank memes and a lot of people are there for irony while btc is pretty much just brainwashed zombies all around

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Tettor•

Just because people are there for the irony, it does not mean that they actually express themselves. Especially since the mods ban anything that even slightly opposes the pro-Trump narrative

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Luffydude•

Yea but atleast they have varying thoughts besides "Bitcoin core is bad, bcash is ultimate coin"

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Crypto_Chrysus•

Lol swank memes? Found the 13 year old. T_d is the most cringy shit I’ve ever seen. “Swank memes” pretty much sums it up.

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Luffydude•

You must be fun at parties

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PepePanna2016redditor for 3 months•

T_d got the election right and is winning the battle of ideas, guess calling everything buzzwords doesn't resonate.

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PepePanna2016redditor for 3 months•

T_D is the only pro Trump sub on this site.

Just like this is the only pro Bitcoin sub.

Patently wrong again.

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PepePanna2016redditor for 3 months•

You're going to ver sub?

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Tettor•

The only pro Trump? Ever heard of r/CringeAnarchy? r/conservative? There are more that I cannot recall but T_D is the most delusional of them

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MrWinston-Wolferedditor for 2 weeks•

Does not compute... needs more input Stephanie!!!

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Beeperbooper2redditor for 3 months•

Damn, I thought bitcoincore was a new spinoff genre of vaporwave and nightcore.

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Bitcoin_21redditor for 3 months•

Bcash Bcash Bcash ;)

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Rickard403•

Its clear that bitcoin "cash" is a money grab

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

This shit is getting ridiculous.. I agree that Bitcoin is THE bitcoin and BCH is basically an altcoin, but NONE of this fued is helping crypto adopt as a whole... Point the the finger whichever way they want and I still say they have BOTH been corrupted by the fiat value of digital currency.. They are setting adoption back and I'm pissed at both sides.

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escapeveloc1tyredditor for 3 months•

Your ‘both sides’ equivocation is bs. The feud, as you put it, is a natural reaction to an attack on bitcoin through Roger’s fraud and deception. But bitcoin being attacked through an attempted branding takeover is, in the end, a good thing. If bitcoin can’t withstand an attack from a douchebag scammer, then how will it withstand an attack from nation states? When it’s clear the flippening isn’t going to happen and bcash is seen for the shitcoin it is, it will highlight the resilience of bitcoin and the importance of true decentralization.

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

I agree with your sentiments, but I'm still entitled to be pissed with what the "natural reaction" is and how it's being handled.. Doesn't make my opinion "bs" lol

I do appreciate your perspective though. Interesting take on the situation.

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paintedfrogOP•

The op simply demonstrates that the overwhelming majority rejects the name "Bitcoin Core" to refer to Bitcoin or BTC. Your reaction here is...incongruous

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

...because the fued is one of the main reasons it's even being referred to in that manner? I don't think it's off base to call that aspect out, but it may be misunderstood.. Not a big deal. I agree with the majority in that aspect.

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Matthew-Davey•

The feud, as you put it, is a natural reaction to an attack on bitcoin through Roger’s fraud and deception.

I think that's backwards. The feud has existed far longer than BCH. In fact I think the existence of BCH is a natural reaction to the feud, not the other way around.

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coinjaf•

The feud has existed far longer than BCH.

Duh. Because the takeover attempts started years before BCH. Mike and Gavin started the first one. The fraud just became bolder over time.

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Rickard403•

I doubt it really effects adoption or mainstream acceptance. Its just a side game with petty players.

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

Though I hope that's true, it wasn't my words necessarily. That was out of the mouth of Roger at the end of the video in this article on Forbes.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2018/05/11/the-bitcoin-reformation/#7308ddb137bd

He was screaming about how BTC is killing babies and this fued was delaying BCH from reaching 3rd world countries, thus delaying the adoption YEARS for all Cryptocurrencies..

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Rickard403•

Roger ver is a smuck who has horse blinders on. He wants to be nakimoto Satoshi or be recognized for the success of bitcoin. Anyone who buys into his bullshit might as well believe in Scientology

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inanimateanimation•

Lol anyone who calls BCH another alt is an idiot

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outofofficeagain•

Call it a scam then.

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plumbforbtc•

You're right it's not just another altcoin... it's king shitcoin.

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inanimateanimation•

Lolol you obviously have never used It fucking stupid btc fanboys who are ignorant and have no idea wtf your talking about. Have fun losing all your money it segshit retard

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

You're*

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

I'm calling bullshit. Call me an idiot if it makes you feel better.. I'll call you a fanboy..

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Stolenaccount34redditor for 6 weeks•

Fan boy with twice the profit you made.

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

Bold statement. Furthers my point though. You BCH trolls speak without knowledge and only care about one thing...

Hint: It isn't the currency Satoshi envisioned.

Let me stop perpetuation the exact thing I was just speaking out against and being hypocritical, because you're being critical... smh

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

Also... Is BCH an "Alternative" to Bitcoin? It certainly won't replace it... BUT if it did, (it won't) would that not be an "alternate coin"?

I respect what BCH is doing, but I'm not going to abandon the platform this was created on because Roger Ver said it was destined to fail.. Slow adoption > No adoption

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Holographiks•

You "respect what BCH is doing"? Really?

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

Technologically..

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inanimateanimation•

Has nothing to do with Roger ver. Have you even ever used the BCH network?

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

Of course.. People hand it out like candy using Tippr. Doesn't make it a solid "solution" nor does the constant battle further crypto as a whole.. To say it has NOTHING to do with Roger Ver is asinine.. lol (I won't stoop to your level by calling people "idiots", because I have some degree of respect for others..)

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TheBTC-G•

Why

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Cburns6976redditor for 3 weeks•

You'll have to finish the question. lol

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lelease•

"Everybody is wrong, except these three!!" --frail old white-lady voice

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Xenepa•

I like how bitcoincash.org doesn't do this, as if they just wanted to do their thing and not get into political bullshit :)

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CryptoHoodoo•

I cannot explain why Roger Ver do not understand that unadequate practice to substitute concepts harm both Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash as a result. I am looking what BCH team doing now and have nothing exept respect, new features, good promo, envolving many different people around the World, coin stay better and better, everything going ok. But call BCH as Bitcoin crossing out everything good. Paradox for me.

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Coinosphere•

It's easy. Roger has always misunderstood and constantly misrepresents the Austrian Economic theory that he claims to support and has quoted incorrectly on occasion.

Being a proper Store of value was an explicit part of the economic origin of bitcoin. The Austrian theory called Menger's Regression theorem explains precisely where money comes from, and if you listen to Roger tell the story, he'll say that it's really important for money to be a transactional currency first and foremost, not a store of value. (Paypal is more important than gold.) Sadly for all of us, he's always misunderstood this and no one can tell him otherwise because he literally thinks he's the smartest person around.

The very Austrian economists he quotes did not agree with him at all... You can read it for yourself here: https://mises.org/library/origin-money-and-its-value (Next to last paragraph, it's clear that money has to be a store of value first and foremost.)

Satoshi and many in bitcoin longer than Roger knew this all along and thankfully the devs realized that bitcoin being a store of value is all-important for its success. Just think about it though; if bitcoin goes to $0, another coin could easily overtake it, or faith in cryptocurrencies as a whole could be lost for decades... But if we just lose the payment rails? That's like switching paypal for amex or something... Very minor in comparison. Consumers won't care if bitcoin gets new payment rails... As long as their value stored in the system is safe.

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loloknightredditor for 3 months•

Add bitso up there

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ChainBeastredditor for a day•

The funniest part is that Bitcoincash.org is even scratching its head on this one.

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HelloImRich•

The bcash downvote brigade has arrived. :D

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paintedfrogOP•

Lol of course. Can't downvote reality away though

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jakesonwu•

You can try

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jed1mindtrix•

You forget twats named Roger.

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swimfan229•

Who is that?

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jed1mindtrix•

Roger Ver.

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swimfan229•

Who?

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cryptotommygunredditor for 4 weeks•

Also r/btc

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PookubugQ•

When you live in an echo chamber, you think your story is true. Wish the BItcoin Cash folks would just embrace their fork, drop the .com and Twitter shenanigans and vacate the btc sub. Embrace their name and see if it works out for them.

Riding on the Bitcoin coattails just makes you look shady.

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ThrowawayNumber2773redditor for 3 months•

Bicoin.com - Roger Ver

@Bitcoin - Roger Ver

CoinGeek - Calvin Ayre, a close friend of Roger Ver and part of the BCash triumvirate consisting of Roger Ver, Calvin Ayre, and Craig "Fake Satoshi" Wright.

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Follygon_•

Any time I see a comment on one of these types of post that tries to find any kind of middle ground I automatically assume that they are one of Roger's sheep. "Come on guys, both sides are at fault here. Stop shitting on BCASH and Roger :("

Nope. Fuck you. Don't trust you at all.

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paintedfrogOP•

Bothsidesism is just another form of cognitive dissonance. Not to be trusted

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TheRealMotherOfOP•

How so? Not trolling, but as a user why choose between two scaling options when there is no certain answer to which one is better. I'm sure only one will survive but why is it a bad thing to have both until one is proven superior?

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paintedfrogOP•

No one is saying you can't. The subject at hand is about the deceptive marketing practices of BCH's handlers. It is they who are trying to gaslight people into believing Bitcoin is called "Bitcoin Core". If you think Bitcoin Cash has potential, buy it. Or make an application for it. Put some skin in the game to make it more than just words, like the entities listed in the graphic did. Talk is cheap; bothsidesism is just empty rhetoric that does not reflect actual reality, and fittingly has little to no support on the ground. That is the point behind op.

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