Propellerheads, the creators of Reason, are releasing a audio recording application "Record"
propellerheads.se/products/record/Posted May 11, 2009, 10:41 PM UTC
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It looks great but for ideas on the spot I still prefer the BOSS Micro BR I bought a few months ago to a computer. Then, of course, for editing I move to the comp' and there I've been rather happy with Mixcraft. Probably not as powerful as Record but good enough for now. When editing on Linux, I'm using Ardour usually.
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my...fuckin'... God... The B.M. is sick! I could play my instrumentals, get my boy josh to do some guitar riffs over them, then record our vocals over top. Getting one of these ASAP!
EDIT: How much you cop it for?
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Got it from Thomann there: http://www.thomann.de/gb/boss_micro_br.htm
It's really a good tool though I would have rather had no effects which are good but not really workable and more inputs. But still, I'm using it on a daily basis.
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Finally. Actually this looks pretty good. I've been using Sonar8 all this time, for the sole reason of adding audio to my Reason tracks. But I'm not a serious producer or audio engineer & frankly am annoyed with these over-bloated, hyper-complex DAW's.. actually I have learned alot & am thankful for that, but seriously, there has to be a quicker, easier way to lay down tracks, where the quality doesn't suffer.. after listening to some of the demo songs for Record, I believe Propellerheads nailed it.
No, there isn't VST support, but Reason has everything I need, esp with the Combinator & Thor.
So, Game Over as far as I'm concerned.. other than dicking around with Sylenth1 (an awesome synth), once I get Record (Sept 09) I will not be opening Sonar very often anymore.
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Hm, not sure if this is going to be able to replace Reaper for me.
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If you're using reaper and it's working out for you, then it's not supposed to.
Record is to DAW's as a pencil is to Adobe Illustrator. Record/Pencil lets you get your ideas down quick, often in high quality if you have the skill and without any fuss.. but you lack a lot of "options" unless you add more tools (rewire). Most DAW's try to be analogous to illustrator in offering lots of power, colours, shapes, functions, etc... but often at the sacrifice of being required to be familiar with the program.
It's a very valuable thing to be able to work on music and keep your mind in "music" mode and not have to switch to "engineer" mode. For some people that is very valuable.
That said, I use and like PT very much and have no interest in Record. I do highly respect what propellerheads has done though.
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That's the other thing that bothers me. It seems like they cribbed some features from ProTools but without the things that make ProTools useful. For instance, I love how easy it is to just roll out an audio loop in ProTools and I'm pretty sure that 'comp' feature is exactly the way PT does it, right?
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Comp is different in Pro Tools.
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Looks nice, but I L O V E ZynAddSubFX (vst) too much. I've had great success with http://www.cantabilesoftware.com. I was a complete noob when I started using it, quite easy and good documentation.
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ZynAddSubFX is awesome, true. Its one of the few softsynths I've actually written tracks with (hardware purist here) .. I just love how it will run very well on my Aspire One notebook too ..
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This looks rock solid to me. I don't do much recording, but this looks more intuitive and easier to use (especially for a beginner) than programs like Pro Tools or Sonar, which at times can be necessarily complex. I'm trained in those programs, but I still prefer to use Reason primarily. It's just so user-friendly.
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it looks like a good way to throw some ideas together real quick, track a rough demo or something. i'll stick with logic pro 7 and my focusrite liquid mix, though. pheads would have to do a pretty amazing job on the EQ/compression built into Record's mixer for it to be anything better than a toy.
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I agree. I'm actually concerned as to how 'good' the emulation of that board is--do I really want my DAW to sound like a specific emulation of a mixing board?
I'll say that it seems like they have a good user interface designer and I like how it shines in the demo but this application is really odd considering how they've been emphasizing how Reason is not the DAW that your grandmother is using... and then they come out with something that seems to look just like Cakewalk SONAR with all of the features of SONAR at a time when Ableton just updated, Reaper is gaining steam, and even Apple and Mackie have come out with DAWs.
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I wish they would release the synth section of Reason without the sequencer.
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If this software's so good, why does their demo video sound so bad?
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And they still haven't added VST support. So unless they bundle every single audio effect I'll ever need (unlikely) it'll still be of no use to me. Fantastic!
Ah, but you can probably rewire it through Live, which does have VST support. Works with Reason, anyhow.
And if you had Live you wouldn't need this to begin with.
Yes, tons of DAW's support ReWire.
"Still" haven't added it? They're not going to! That's not what this program is about.
Here's some videos to help you better understand where they're coming from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYE5gX7hN80&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GI84SU0ano&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6eP2b2m_aQ&feature=channel_page
Propellerheads has NEVER introduced 3rd party plugins such as VST/AU into their programs and very likely never will. 3rd party plugins have absolutely nothing to do with what they are trying to accomplish.
Plus their applicatons are rock-solid because of this.
Just gleaning the corporate culture and what pheads have said, there will never be VST support in their apps outside of rewire.