tubing size for brake bleeding and what's the chance I introduced air into my lines?

After watching a few videos decided to give changing out my brake fluid a go on my older 05 R1 since it seemed easy enough .. picked up a mityvac 8000 since it seemed like it would be easier then doing the whole pump the lever, open the bleed valve, rinse and repeat..

Some had suggest to make it even easier pop the reservoir and removed all the old brake fluid first, fill with fresh and then move on down to the bleed screws so and not have to waste time flushing all the old stuff in addition to what was in the lines and wouldn't you know.. like motherfucking Goldilocks the tubing supplied was too big or too small for the bleed screews. Same with the Bleed screw adapters.

The adapters were listed as 6mm and the tubing I believe was 6mm(amazon says 6.4mm) and the small was 4mm(4.4mm), .. so I'm guessing 5mm would do the trick but just want to get some actual confirmation.

so until I can get tubing that will create a tight seal and not let air slowly leak, I just made sure it was to the fill line and replaced the cap but is there a chance I introduce air into the lines by first emptying the reservoir, even if I didn't engage the break at all?

Posted Jun 26, 2018, 4:55 AM UTC

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seacappy ‘08 R6•

You’re not supposed to completely empty the reservoir, just enough to make sure no air gets in and then you add to that old fluid. Go to a hardware store and get tubing that’s very small in diameter so it fits snug against the bleeder valve, you can always stretch the tubing with a pair of needle nose pliers.

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ApkohaOP•

You’re not supposed to completely empty the reservoir, just enough to make sure no air gets in and then you add to that old fluid.

Yeah, that's what I thought but deferred to a video of someone emptying before starting, I knew once you started at the lower bleed screws you didn't want it to go too low to avoid air getting pulled into the lines but going forward will just empty enough but not pass the low line.

Go to a hardware store and get tubing that’s very small in diameter so it fits snug against the bleeder valve, you can always stretch the tubing with a pair of needle nose pliers.

then it sounds like the 4mm tubing I already have will work, I was just trying to work it on but it was not wanting to budge after about half way on but sounds like if I stretch it a tad with a pair of needle nose pliers I'll be good.

Thanks, I'll try that in the morning and providing that works, that will also deal with any air that I may have introducing by trying to "save time".

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seacappy ‘08 R6•

Yea just stretch it. If you have a heat gun or blow dryer you can also warm it up so it will go on easier, or lube it with some brake fluid. You want that bad boy snug.

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motoboi82•

Also note some people like to fill the brake system from the caliper up with a syringe/pump like device. Either way you'll still end up bleeding the lines in a traditional manner. Even with a mighty vac, you may need to squeeze the lever a few times just to be sure. Also don't forget to burp the banjo bolts if you have them.

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ApkohaOP•

banjo bolts

Thanks and I just learned about those last night, seems the thing a lot of people don't mention them or doing that in their videos.

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Roger-O-Thornhil•

Bleed the brakes old fashion style, I have the mityvac hand pump and still prefer to do it old school.

Very easy fill reservoir to max position...

Pump brake lever 3-4 x maintain pressure on last squeeze

Open up the bleeder valve, while squeezing the brake lever, don't let go of the lever, close the valve before releasing the lever.

***Note attach plastic tube to to the bleeder so it doesn't squirt all over the bike allow to drain in a container)

Keep pumping 3-4 times and repeat the steps, keep bleeding until clear liquid comes out of the bleeder valve.

Hope this helps

I hate the mityvac with a passion

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ApkohaOP•

Indeed it does help, thanks! I've started to understand why you say you hate the mityvac after trying to use it.

I did it the way you and a few others suggest this evening and it was ezpz enough.

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