Federal Reserve Study Finds Additional Building Won't Make City Housing More Affordable
forbes.com/sites/eriksherman/2018/08/03/addit...Posted Aug 4, 2018, 8:50 PM UTC
Posted Aug 4, 2018, 8:50 PM UTC
I would suggest for anyone interested in high-density planning and mixed-use TOD to take a short working vacation to the Southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. I lived there for 6 years and had a unique opportunity to examine the aforementioned approaches close-up. When it comes to density and mixed-use zoning, the Chinese have a thing or two to teach us.
Absolutely agreed. The default Not-Invented-Here attitude in the US is stifling and stupid.
When the supply side has been broken so much for so long doubling the housing supply doesn't do much to equilibrium prices when there is so much pent up demand. Demand in urban areas hasn't been satisfied in a looooong time. There are literally tens of millions of people waiting to buy at current prices or just below them.
Misleading title and article. The Federal reserve does say that additional building WOULD in fact reduce housing costs:
Add 5% more housing to the most expensive neighborhoods and the rents would drop only by 0.5%.
Maybe the author thinks it's disappointingly low, but it's still a drop. Furthermore, the study only looked at what would happen to a city's housing prices if housing were added ONLY to a SINGLE neighborhood, the most highly-desired and sought out neighborhood. "Table 3: Simulation Results - Increasing Housing Stock to Single Neighborhoods"
The study doesn't look at what would happen to prices if housing stock expanded city-wide, only at a scenario where all of a city's construction was concentrated in a single neighborhood where value was highest. a +20% housing stock increase in that case might mean just a 0,5% or 1% city-wide increase.
I would suggest for anyone interested in high-density planning and mixed-use TOD to take a short working vacation to the Southern Chinese city of Guangzhou. I lived there for 6 years and had a unique opportunity to examine the aforementioned approaches close-up. When it comes to density and mixed-use zoning, the Chinese have a thing or two to teach us.
We also present evidence to suggest that improving amenities in low-priced neighborhoods is a more cost effective way to reduce prices in high-priced neighborhoods, via a substitution effect, than directly building additional housing units in high-priced areas.
Gentrification.
The simulation finds that rents in city-centers where amenities are in high demand result in lower price elasticities. But the article notes that this is not true in the outer areas. In the outer areas, the more the supply is constrained by regulations, the higher the pressures will be......in the city center.
So, no, the article does not find what OP's title says.
This is the study cited - https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/files/2018035pap.pdf
Tweaked the title slightly, just so it was clear that these are results of an extensive Federal Reserve Study (and not just a particular person's blog or similar).
I'm so sick of this dumbass well economics is more complicated than a simple supply demand curve so supply demand is bullshit argument. It's stupid and it's designed for stupid people to repeat. If you buy this argument you're either dumb or not thinking very hard.
Just because there's more than just simple supply and demand at play doesn't mean that supply and demand aren't also at play.
I'm so sick of this dumbass well economics is more complicated than a simple supply demand curve so supply demand is bullshit argument. It's stupid
I'm so sick of urbanists gaslighting everyone into thinking the world operates backwards to all observable fact
Everytime someone observes that more supply is never meaningfully reducing housing prices (even when population is declining, even when housing construction is exploding, even in places with no zoning laws), there's always some bullshit excuse for urbanists to cover for it. "Gentrification solves gentrification", they claim, "development solves the problems with developments". Or the worst of all, "it's somehow all cars fault".
Everytime we admit something easily observable with our own eyes, everyone pretends to be an economics expert. "Well, my community college Econ 101 taught me about supply and demand, so that is obviously more valuable than any observable fact from reality"
Finally, we get a bunch of economists at the Federal Reserve, to update their models with data from recent events, and their findings suddenly match what we've all been experiencing and discussing this whole time.
Now what? Are you going to shit on the economists too? Now that you can't hide behind them any longer? Are economists stupid now, because they rejected your religious beliefs for observable fact?
Just because there's more than just simple supply and demand at play doesn't mean that supply and demand aren't also at play
No one ever claimed that. This is a straw man blanket you've wrapped yourself in, to ignore the problem at hand.
The Federal Reserve's economists are simply noting what we've known all along - supply can't and won't fix affordability. They account for what a vast huge increase in supply would do -- it technically effects prices, but woth such little effect that it's not solving any problems.
This shouldn't come as a surprise. There are a number of critical problems that "supply and demand" aren't able to solve. (A rise in crime does not necessarily mean a shortage of police officers. Starvation in Africa is still possible while an overabundance of food sits around, etc)
Supply and demand are tools for thinking about problems, not necessarily the solution to every problem. This is obvious to everyone except urbanists, who take that as an insult to their religion for some reason.
Your post was already debunked by klunkthespacecat and now you're lashing out at me. Calm down.
No one ever claimed that. This is a straw man blanket you've wrapped yourself in, to ignore the problem at hand.
You did, your article title does.
even when housing construction is exploding
Where is this happening? Total housing construction levels are well below the levels that we had throughout the 1990s.
even in places with no zoning laws
Where are you talking about? Hopefully not Houston, which has tons and tons of land use segregation, density restrictions, parking requirements, etc.
"Gentrification solves gentrification", they claim
Source?
"development solves the problems with developments"
You're quoting who exactly?
"it's somehow all cars fault".
Again, I doubt you're actually quoting anyone real here. Cars are part of the problem, definitely. Do you interpret that to mean "eliminating all cars is the only possible solution to housing affordability"?
their findings suddenly match what we've all been experiencing and discussing this whole time.
Their own study, with all its limitations found that building even a little bit of housing (5%) does decrease prices (by 0.5%). So what are you even talking about?
I'm not someone who often reads whitepapers from the Fed, but isn't the paper saying something a little different than the article? Stuff like:
and:
And in section 5.1, aren't they saying that the study assumes rents in the "outskirt" neighborhoods *can't* change? Are they also assuming for this model that an increase in housing supply is automatically associated with an increase of exactly enough people to occupy those new homes? These seem like pretty strange assumptions to make if you're trying to study housing affordability - I think most people can tell you that rents change and people move between cities.
Maybe something like "Federal Reserve study finds that a tiny increase in # of units in the most expensive neighborhood of a walled city where no one from outside the city is allowed to move in results in a small decrease in rents for that expensive neighborhood."
I feel like the paper goes out of its way to repeatedly make clear that the limitations of the study *don't* let them conclude that making a bunch of new housing won't reduce housing costs... and the title of the Forbes article is "Additional Building Won't Make City Housing More Affordable Says Fed Study"?
It sounds more like the limitation is that they only look at "city" (as in tiny US administrative area) changes.
Regional changes could potentially have far greater effect.