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My Attempt at a Somewhat Detailed Review of Tier 5 Upgrades

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Hey guys, just wanted to share my humble take on the viability of all tier 5 tower upgrades in the game:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BVqS2KY0MJ1XJRiRqsKBV9zyZmcm4eCrVGd5FsC_lAo/edit?usp=sharing

These don't apply to any specific game mode but rather seek to evaluate how good/worth the upgrades are in general.

I'm by no means an expert at this game and some of these tower upgrades I've tested only a few times, so please feel free to point out where I went wrong and why :')

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*will update the spreadsheet to consider new input and if a new patch hits

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Upgrades currently considered to be extremely useful (S tiers):

Ice: Super Brittle (5/x/x), Icicle Impale (x/x/5)

Sub: Pre-emptive Strike (x/5/x)

Bucc: Carrier Flagship (5/x/x)

Wizard: Archmage (5/x/x)

Super: True Sun God (5/x/x), Legend of the Night (x/x/5)

Ninja: Grandmaster Ninja (5/x/x)

Druid: Avatar of Wrath (x/x/5)

Farm: Monkey-Nomics (x/5/x)

Village: Monkeypolis (x/x/5)

Posted Aug 21, 2018, 6:02 AM UTC · edited

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thedarklinkhs:chimps: #ouch C.H.I.M.P.S Master•

Glad to help with your review, here's what I've found from experience (I've done a lot of CHIMPS, and some freeplay):

  • Village xx5: S tier, this is the most efficient way of earning money, even better than the bank. Saving space is just the side effect.
  • Banana Farm x5x: S tier. This thing earns up to 30k per round (or 36k with knowledge), and pays for itself in 3-4 rounds. I assume if you have enough money to afford this, you can also afford a glue gunner to "infinite" stall and hit that max. IMO, the best banana farm (aside from village, of course). You are correct in saying the other tier 5s are bad though.
  • Druid xx5: Easily S tier. This thing is meant to pop MOABs, it even gets stronger the more RBE there is on screen.
  • Alchemist 5xx: One of the worst tier 5 upgrades, you can easily afford ten 400 alchemists for this guy's price. Also, there is currently a bug where 400 alchemists buff a tower more than the 5xx. Don't know why you would ever use this guy until NK fixes this.
  • Wizard 5xx: S tier definitely, one of the strongest towers to use in CHIMPS.
  • Heli 5xx: This is another crap tower for its price. I don't know why you would ever use this thing.
  • Ace x5x: You forgot to rate this one. Lemme help: A tier, wipes out almost all of a ZOMG, but the superior strat to use in CHIMPS is Ground Zero spam imo.
  • Ice 5xx: I'd say S tier, as it gives +4 damage to any bloons it hits, which is almost on par with max support TSG buff, for way cheaper.
  • Bomb x5x: S tier especially against MOABs. This is the most efficient way to destroy the BAD, aside from First Strike.
  • Boomerang x5x: A tier. I previously thought boomerang was trash, but after completing a challenge where I used only boomerangs and spike factories in CHIMPS, I realized that this thing is extremely good (700k pops by the end, and that's without any village/alch/gwen buffs).
  • Boomerang 5xx: This thing is too expensive to afford outside of after round 80, and after round 80 super ceramics come in. Therefore, since he sucks at dealing with those he is trash tier. One of the worst tier 5 upgrades in the game.
  • Dart xx5: Not bad, but not A tier. Honestly, Tack Zone and this one should be switched, Tack Zone is way better, and is a very good alchemist buff option.
  • Super Monkey 5xx: Considering the purpose of this is freeplay (not useful in any other scenario), this should be S tier as it is the best freeplay tower?
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sourpatch-OP:ice:•

Really appreciate all this input, seems like I was especially off on some of the support towers (probably because I often overlook them and don't do much freeplay); will update accordingly

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bobtheloser:farm:•

Thanks for your thoughts. What is the best farm to use with a xx5 village for max money?

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thedarklinkhs:chimps: #ouch C.H.I.M.P.S Master•

More expensive the better, so 420

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bobtheloser:farm:•

Thank you, Sir!

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rohan_spibo:nin::ja::ki::wi:•

Looks nice :)

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Pokketts•

I like this guide, very useful.

Some things I think you should consider;

~ Apache Prime should be all yellow, as its popping power and viability are really low, especially compared to some tier 4 towers ~ Archmage (in my opinon) should be considered for S class, as you can get it before round 60 on most diffulculties and it will out DPS a 3/X/X super monkey, or really any tier 3 super monkey. It is a really powerful ugrade and is definitely an overpowered upgrade ~ 5/X/X monkey village is powerful in its own right, as its balista has infinite range, and has a decent DPS, all the while buffing surrounding towers. Try it out against a couple hundred ceramics. It is not bad, although a high price ~X/X/5 monkey village is the single best way to make tons of money. It not only absorbs nearby monkey farms, it increases the profit exponentially by the amount of cash you "sacrifice" to it. Its almost like a sun temple for monkey farms

Other than that, I think you nailed this guide.

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sourpatch-OP:ice:•

Thanks, glad you liked it :)

I realize that I underestimate the 5/x/x wizard and some farm/village options, so thanks for the reminder!

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Gabidou99revert spectre nerf pls•

Perma Charge does more damage to MOABs than you might think, put it with a 4-0-2 Alchemist and see the results.

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30RomanN•

Absolutely fantastic! The only thing I saw that I didn’t agree with is the super mines. They are much better at killing MOABs than non-MOAB bloons.

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Deletesoonbye•

I’d put the 5xx village up to a tier. It’s actually one of the cheaper t5 upgrades, and the ballista is relly strong

x5x druid is a tier. You forgot that it gives you extra lives (which are actually not useless against rogue reds), and the income from the tier 4 is really efficient

x5x sniper is probably B tier. The income sucks, but the elite targeting is amazing if you spam bottom path snipers. It also increases the attack speed of all snipers on screen

Prince of Darkness is A tier. If you put it on an intersection, any bloons passing that intersection get annhilated by double unpopped moabs and bfbs

Sky shredder is a tier. It detects camo already, so always go for sharper darts. It’s an amazing crowd controller

xx5 buccaneer is awful on most maps, but I’d put it at b tier for how good it is on spice islands

Flying fortress is c tier. 3 spectres do the exact same thing, and are much cheaper

Absolute zero is obviously f tier, but you underestimate snowstorm. It slows down moabs. You also forgot to note that the energizer has 1k pierce instead of 70.

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thehazardballHe super SIZED :super:•

why no tsar bomba review?

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sourpatch-OP:ice:•

didn't really like using it in my own gameplay, but it'll be added, courtesy to u/thedarklinkhs

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ThatBloonsGuy•

I feel as if the x/x/5 heli should be rated S. I use it in almost every chimps run.

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sourpatch-OP:ice:•

My concern with the xx5 heli is that while the T3 and T5 upgrades are both incredibly powerful, I often find myself spending 10k+ to reach the somewhat underpowered and inconsistent T4 upgrade and having to wait for another 30k+ for the T5.

So the ~50k I have to spend for an xx5 heli could've been used to get the 501 ninja, 502 wizard, or almost the xx4 upgrade of super, which are all incredibly strong candidates for the cash

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