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heedlessly2

Interesting Final3 situation in BB6 Janelle, Ivette, Maggie

Past Discussion

context wise, it was when the winner of the Final3 was the least powerful and least important in history.

Friendship has the majority in the jury, so if Janelle gets that HOH, she loses to both Ivette and Maggie in the Final2 (janelle is a better player than Ivette imo, but she wouldn't have the votes).

Ivette takes Maggie, she loses since Maggie was their ringleader. (the real situation that played out)

Ivette takes Janelle, Ivette loses despite the Friendship majority jury. This isn't a contradiction to a previous statement since Ivette winning HOH but not choosing another Friendship member, would be a betrayal. They made a pact in that case and would vote against her.

So this means, Ivette's best path to victory would be throwing the FinalHOH to Janelle and Janelle's best path to victory is throwing it to Ivette, both taking each other.

Maggie is the only winner in BB history who lost part1 and part2 of the FinalHOH.

But if Maggie did win the FinalHOH, she can take Ivette, without pulling a stunt such as taking Janelle. I'm not even sure if the "Friendship betrayal" pact applies to Maggie since she was the ringleader and could probably do one last brainwash on her alliance.

Posted Sep 11, 2018, 2:32 PM UTC · edited

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kylehassigBrett•

I think James said it best when janelle walked into the jury house. She said “Ivette made a $450000 mistake” in regards to not throwing the final hoh. But that just goes to show why Maggie was just such an incredible manipulator to get Ivette to take Maggie even though it spelt certain doom.

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Skgr•

Is it even possible to reliably throw the final HoH comp?

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kotorfan1Winston•

Bless Goddess Maggie. If Hagvette won I would've vomited.

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Hail MAGGIE!

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WarmWarning•

Janelle tho

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kotorfan1Winston•

Maggie is a glorious and underrated winner. Hell, people give her the default fifth best winner position even though she arguably had a stronger game than Derrick and Will (S2). I think Will's a better player and Derrick's just about at her skill level, but the fact Maggie gets almost no credit from casuals and some default "she's great but whatever" from superfans is a travesty.

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solesurvivor13Neda•

The general audience can barely remember who was on 2 seasons ago, let alone someone they hated from 12 years ago. She's an incredible player, but also was incredibly boring, annoying and just a shitty person. What else do you really expect superfans to say? They respect her game but don't care for her which is completely fair.

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Luna920•

What did Maggie do that made her so awful? I was 12 when I watched it so don’t remember everything. I just remember I loved janelle and kaysar so much and disliked Maggie and her group but I don’t really remember what it was that was so awful about her.

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solesurvivor13Neda•

Talked about how she hated helping homeless people as a nurse, and that she was involved in a medical malpractice that resulted in someone dying. She was a mess

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WayToGoMeggo•

This ruined my childhood. I watched the season when I was pretty young and rooted for Maggie all the way through. What a disappointment. I wonder if she faced repercussions after it was over.

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iNeverKnew25Scottie•

but also was incredibly boring, annoying and just a shitty person.

So Derrick. Got it.

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TheOperaLovingGreekWill Kirby•

All Ivette had to do was throw Final HOH... she would’ve won. She’s one of the worst runner ups ever.

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digital_disguise•

Isn't there a rumour that Ivette was actually supposed to win? One of the jurors pulled a Topaz and picked the wrong key (supposedly Howie).

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Somebody_Who_ExistsPorsche•

Rachel wanted him to vote for Maggie and James and Janelle wanted him to vote for Ivette, so he said he voted accidentally to save face with those two but was almost certainly lying.

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kotorfan1Winston•

They got over it, everybody from that season knows Maggie was the rightful winner.

It's the one good thing Howie ever did on that show.

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WhatIsChop•

spool of lies

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heedlessly2OP•

Rachel (his pre alliance) said she would never talk to Howie again if he votes for Ivette

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TheOperaLovingGreekWill Kirby•

It was done on purpose... he lied about it

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iNeverKnew25Scottie•

Derrick gets the credit that Maggie should get. She's easily the best cult leader in BB history.

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heedlessly2OP•

Eh i never understood the Maggie Derrick comparisons.

Maggie controlled her alliance, while Derrick had 90% of the house.

Maggie made her alliance do weird shit such as worshiping the Cappy shrine and going to bed at the same time.

Derricks personality was friendly but bland similar to bb10 Dan. Maggie was stern and cold.

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NickF227Shelby•

Who actually thinks Janelle played a better game than Maggie? I can’t.

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heedlessly2OP•

I mean Janelle is a better player than Ivette. But it doesn't matter since Sov6 doesn't have the votes

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Luna920•

I’m not sure I understand why Janelle and Ivettes best path to victory would be throwing the final HOH? Wouldn’t it have been better to win it to control whom they take and pad their resume.

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heedlessly2OP•

I already explained this. Reread it again.

Janelle padding her resume doesn't mean anything if NerdHerd(Friendship) hold 4/7 votes. Jani is S6 and both Maggie and Ivette are NH. NH deeply valued loyalty

Ivette taking Janelle, means stabbing her own alliance in the back, which pisses them off. They hate Janelle more, but a betrayal would be enough to make them hate Ivette more. Ivette could throw it to Jani and pretend like she tried, then they wouldn't fault her.

Jani winning bb6, means that a betrayal needs to happen.

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Luna920•

I mean I read it but I just didn’t see the information you just presented in the OP. This explains it much better.

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