Current regulator IC adjustable with linear potentiometer

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I've been struggling to find a schematic, or simulate myself, of a way to regulate current, down to say 10mA, with LM317 with a linear potentiometer, and it doesn't seem to possible. Best I've been able to find is a way to do it down to ~100mA linearly (with big ass power resistors too).

Which makes me think I'm not using the right IC - are there any current regulator ICs (up to say 30v) that were designed with potentiometer adjustment in mind?

The reason for the linear requirement is to be able to label the pot with easily discernible limit levels.

Posted Oct 4, 2018, 7:18 PM UTC

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triffid_hunter•

op-amp and transistor, make whatever you like

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itzkoldOP•

Too advanced for me at this point.

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triffid_hunter•

Nah you'd be surprised.. Your LM317 is basically just an op-amp and transistor (and 1.25v reference) already except you can't get inside there and change the arrangement or the reference voltage.

There's two ingredients:

Op-amp (with negative feedback) will generate whatever output voltage that makes both its inputs the same voltage - that's basically all you need to know until you get to very advanced op-amp usage.

Transistor (of any type) just acts as a voltage-to-current converter.

So now you have 1) a thing that makes two voltages the same and 2) a thing that controls current based on voltage.

This is literally all you need for a huge number of various tasks..

Voltage regulator? change current so the output voltage matches a reference.

Current regulator? change current so the voltage developed by a sense resistor matches a reference

Differential amplifier? change output voltage to be Vin1 - Vin2 by simply comparing vin1-vout with vin2/2

Boost converter? turn on when output voltage is too low, turn off when inductor current is too high.

Buck converter? turn on when output voltage is too low. turn off when output voltage is too high.

Arc welder? constant current regulator that makes big voltage spikes when the load resistance resembles infinity.

LED brightness controller? Just a current regulator

Battery charger? Also just a current regulator, but turns off when the voltage reaches some threshold.

IR photodiode amplifier? keep voltage at zero by feeding current through a resistor, so output voltage is proportional to photons per second.

Audio amplifier? make output voltage some multiple of input using a resistor divider, and add a crapton of current gain with big discrete transistors on a big heatsink

and tons of other stuff

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Pocok5•

It sure as heck not. And if it is, time to git gud.

The question is: do you need current limiting (avoid frying shit if you short it) or an actual current source (a constant voltage is not important at all)?

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itzkoldOP•

primarily i'd like to avoid frying the parts that comprise my shitty circuits

i'll have an lt3080 for the constant voltage afterwards

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Pocok5•
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naval_person•

If you limit yourself to only examining solutions that include one single IC: good luck, I don't know of any.

However if you give yourself permission to use two ICs, then I think you'll find it straightforward to design exactly what you want using a high side current monitor chip such as the ZXCT1110, in conjunction with a current sense resistor. The current monitor chip's output goes to one side of a differential amplifier (opamp + 4 resistors). The linear-scale potentiometer goes to the other side of the differential amplifier. Done.

Happy designing!

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itzkoldOP•

ZXCT1110

searching digikey for through hole parts in that category (current regulation/management, current monitor) yields 0 hits

is there another classification for such ICs?

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naval_person•

Buy this and then use it with the very-easy-to-solder-by-hand ZXCT1030.

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itzkoldOP•

oh i can just dead bug it - i was hoping for a larger selection...

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Pocok5•

is there another classification for such ICs?

Yeah, they're called "surface mount devices" and you can't see them if you filter them out.

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itzkoldOP•

i know what SMD is :)

i'm asking if there's another classification for current monitor ICs or if they really only come in SMD packages

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Pocok5•

All of them are SMD.

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itzkoldOP•

fyi lt3081 seems to have current limit adjustable by a single 5k pot, and voltage adjustment can be set-up to be adjustable by just about any pot

i bought lt3080 for my voltage regulation - could have saved myself so much headache if i just bought a part 1 model number higher...unbelievable

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