Rip_Van_Winkle•

the Palestinians need to get Hamas and Hezbollah out of their politics and out of the WestBank and Gaza, they don't have the Palestinians best interest at heart and only want to cause trouble with Israel.

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[deleted]•

Hezbollah is a southern Lebanese Shiite organization.

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Rip_Van_Winkle•

funded by Iran to attack and harass Israel

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[deleted]•

True, but they're not a force in Palestinian politics since their area of operations don't even border the West Bank and Gaza.

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he11odave•

The Israelis need to stop stealing land and claiming a country as solely for Jews. Come on Israel, live up to how you like to portray yourself.

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Rip_Van_Winkle•

i agree, Israel is not a nice nation to live in if you are not an israeli jew,

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RabidRaccoon•

Israel has Arab citizens with the right to vote.

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MikeSeth•

..and be elected, own property and businesses, represent and be represented in the court of law, phat apartheid we got down here, LOL.

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brettfromtibet•

Hamas are arch typical Arab dictactors and power challengers who will do ANYTHING to maintain control, even if it involves senseless war and results slaughter of their own people. They oppress the Gazan Palestinians and impede any chance of peace or progress. Unfortunately for the prospects of peace in the region, violent coups are tradition and standard practice in Arab culture. There is historically no such thing as an institution involved by consent for the common good of the people. It is a primitive tribal culture of shame and honor - where compromise and civility is ALWAYS weak and shameful... and Rambo-style brawn, revenge and tough-talk is ALWAYS considered honorable no matter how retardedly tragic and self-destructive the outcome.

Israel is the best thing that ever happened to the Palestinians. They have set the radical expectation that Palestinians should become a free people (once they decide to end the senseless conflict, stop scapegoating Israel, and overthrow the corrupt, careerists strongmen largely responsible for their mess - like Arafat and Hamas ). Becoming a free and democratic people is unthinkable and discussable in the rest of the Arab world - with has a 2,000 year unbroken tradition of absolute dictatorships.

Hopefully the Palestinians will realize there is a way to surive, thrive, flourish and prosper - and the current primary focus on revenge and violence against the neighboring indigenous tribe called Israel is more self-destructive than anything.

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[deleted]•

Actually, far from being entirely unelected dictators Hamas fairly won the 2006 elections. And the headline is wrong, actually, Hamas have opposed a date proposed by Fatah, not all future elections in perpetuity.

You make many generalizations about Arab culture but what do you know aside from what you learn from Israeli propaganda sources? Nothing.

But I know that talking to you, brettfromtibet, is like talking to a wall. A particularly racist wall.

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malcontent•

Wow this piece of shit racist insane fuck got ten upvotes.

The hasbara squad is out in force today.

I loved the "Israel is the best thing that ever happened to the Palestinians."

Now that's a fine piece of god addled zionist bullshit right there.

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fellowmellow•

And the Zionazis probably believe it too, in the same way a child molester can express he / she is 'helping' kids to find their sexuality.

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brettfromtibet•

Interesting how many people downvote this story.

God forbid people would read a link about the real reason the Palestinian's problems keeps getting dragged out into infinity.

It shows that the Anti-Israel people on Reddit are just like the Palestinian carreerist leaders and dictators; they don't really care about the Palestinans and won't face the real roots of this depressing conflict - they want to promote conflict and misunderstanding of the situation for their own personal pleasure and gains.

Bashing Israel for trying to survive and assigning it ALL the blame in the neverending jihad conflicts with Islamist Terrorists is immensely enjoyable for a certain sadistic / misanthropic personality type, and stories like this put a damper on schadenfreude.

They are like an elementary school bully who can't feel satisfaction without picking on someone and cutting them down. So they pick on Israel.

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MobiusBuzzOP•

I couldn't agree more, but what can you expect when reddit is funded by AP?

EDIT: How the hell can someone downvote a person who uses the word "schadenfreude"? :D

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malcontent•

Do you know who reddit is owned by?

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fellowmellow•

It's the fact that Israel is a terrorist state that it is being (rightly) blamed.

Fact is, we'd ALL be better off without that shitty little terror state.

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MobiusBuzzOP•

So you're going to give political asylum to the Jews of Israel, I see...

You speak like a child...

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[deleted]•

A significant minority of Israeli's already have duel citizenship while Jews can move to Germany freely and automatically get citizenship, Sephardic Jews automatically get citizenship in Spain, the US has taken plenty of Jews already which is why the Jewish community in the US is the largest in the world, larger than even Israel. There are also hundreds of thousands of Jews in France, the UK, Argentina, Brazil, Canada, and Russia each and most Russian Jews still have close ties to their homeland and left mostly for economic reasons. In reality most Jews would have no trouble finding a western country with a large Jewish community to move to. I'm not saying it should happen, but this isn't WWII times we're talking about here.

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MobiusBuzzOP•

I don't know how to address what you're saying. I didn't expect anyone to take the idea of ethnically cleansing Israel of Jews seriously, but I guess I underestimated you. You have no idea what you're talking about, in terms of immigration, you're just talking out of your ass it's unbelievable. For example, I don't fit to any of the categories you've supplied here.

but this isn't WWII times we're talking about here

I agree, we're going from bad to worse.

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fellowmellow•

Why does Israel use children as human shields? Children human shields

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MobiusBuzzOP•

Stupid argument that leads nowhere. Also it identifies an entire country with a group of soldiers, but never mind that. It leads nowhere because I can ask in return why the Palestinians do it, and it's this kind of recursive rhetorics that leads us back where we started, only angrier. But you just want to yell that Israel is bad, right? You don't get that I agree with that, I just don't reach the same conclusions you do. can we work from this point, or do you want to yell some more, snowflake?

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Gyvon•

The only "human shield" I see in that picture is the IDF soldier shielding the palestinian.

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heystoopid•

Ah , like all Meddle Eastern politics it is only wrong , if a certain group of men in black religious zealots who riot on Saturday say it is so !

If not , then it only becomes politically correct for a minority of the inhabitants within it's borders and those natives who originally lived there and have been moved to gulags and reservations dependent on European Aid only , are then told silence or the lash of the overseers whip , your free choice .

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MobiusBuzzOP•

I find it very interesting, in a philosophical manner, how this dialectic movement actually synthesizes left and right where you can no longer tell the difference.

Edit: I'd love to hear some explanations as to why this got down voted, anyone?

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fellowmellow•

Because Israeli supporters can only tell lies.

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MobiusBuzzOP•

Please, enlighten me, where is the lie in that comment?

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