The Woodwood problem

Woodward is known to be cowardly with decisions. Do you think he is deliberately delaying making a third manager change because this will be the third time he has cost the club a sizeable amount of money?

The chances of us making the europa league is going to cost Woodward in some way and is going to cost the club money for the third time in a row and maybe have his job reviewed, my reasoning behind this is Woodward is a banker who would have lost the club money of his decision making.

A director of football has been thrown around the works for a while now, so does anybody else feel like he is hoping for a miracle to save his job and to save face? Southampton pulling the trigger of manager sackings and Arsenal looking revamped may put more pressure on him than Jose.

Edit. It is Woodward not Woodwood although that would be a funny name.

TLDR, Ed is refusing to sack Jose in an attempt to save the club money and not to be seen as a failure. What do you think?

Posted Dec 3, 2018, 8:44 PM UTC · edited

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davejug1Kanchelskis•

While he keeps bringing in tractors, noodles and bogs, he's safe as houses mate.

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timsadiq13:1:•

No, I believe they delay it because they want to be seen as giving managers every opportunity to succeed.

People talk about the payoff cost but if we sacked Jose a month ago we could have gotten a new manager boost and competed for a CL spot. You think business first Woodward doesn't think about that?

Right or wrong, it seems we'll give managers until they mathematically cannot achieve the minimum objective and then fire them.

Moyes was canned after CL was gone. LVG got to the end cause of the FA Cup, or I bet he would have gone as soon as CL was out of reach too.

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DrSquare:away7:•

I think it’s got little to do with a payout, if Jose did something horrific which meant they had no choice to sack him they would. Allot of it I think revolves around the notion that Utd aren’t a sacking club and this image of wanting to give people as much chance as they can. Also they want to keep it as predictable as possible as that keeps things steady from an investment point of you which keeps the pen pushers and bean counters happy.

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arnava17•

Actually if I remember correctly we lost the cl spot mathematically on the last matchday and that too on goal difference. So FA cup or not lvg would have gotten chance till end.

Edit : Confirmed that we lost 4th spot to city on GD with 66 pts.

Our GD was 14 while city's was 30. LVG might still have been in job had city lost or drawn the last match.

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except_the_chickenflair-crest•

Losing to West Ham was what took him down. It was a must win, like a final for us. Their last match at Upton park too.

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ashu54Solskjær's Red Army:redditgold:•

But they won 3-0 while our match was postponed due to a bomb scare.. FA cup was the reason.

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PM_sweaty_socksPochettino•

And tbh, I get that. At least every manager knows what they have to do.

It gives managers time to turn things around.

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sauce_murica•

Woodwood

I don't know if this reference to Woodward as "Woodwood" is supposed to be a joke, or if it was just your phone's autocorrect running rampant, but it's hard to take the post seriously when you repeatedly misspell Ed's name like that.

Edit - Op fixed it.

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AvatarflashOP•

If I lie and say it is a joke can I take his job? Yeah that's on me and my crappy ability to spellcheck.

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sauce_murica•

All good - spellcheck catches us all sometimes.

FWIW, people seem to generally agree that Ed either (a) thinks Jose's doing just fine; or (b) isn't willing to sack him until we can mathematically no longer get Top 4 in order to save money.

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LalleUtdDuncan Edwards•

I'm guessing there is a performance clause in Mourinhos contract, and that he is on the way to be below that so it will be alot cheaper to wait until 2019 and then sack him. Or get sacked as soon as it is impossible to each that goal. If not then I have absolutly no idea what Woodward is thinking about.

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Willdigg•

The MoonMoon of Chief Executives

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DresdanPIUpturned_Collar •

He should be made to pay out the severence packages from his own pocket as it's his decision to apply the extension.

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Rakhed•

Problem is that if we didnt extend his contract.

Everything that happend this season would have been blamed on that the players know Mourinho doesnt have long left on his contract etc.

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DresdanPIUpturned_Collar •

No, he already had a contract that still had years left on it. Ed pulled the trigger, once again, too soon and now we're in the situation where he won't be fired unless we mathematically miss out on top 4.

It's poorly planned and I feel if that man continues the process of hiring and firing, we'll see this situation again.

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wakey87433Mata•

edit clicked reply on the wrong post so it’s not aimed at you so much

99% of this sub was calling for him to be given a new contract, I got downvoted into oblivion for saying he shouldn’t get a new deal while we made sure he didn’t have his usual 3rd season falling apart. So now using this as a stick to beat Woodward around with is form most of you complete and utterly pathetic.

Also it wouldn't have just been his choice. The board would have all had a say and most likely football people at the club would have been consulted too to get an inside view

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mufc_realtalkJose Mourinho's Daughter•

its not woodwood its woodworm

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cyclo4ane•

As long as the club is making loads of money, Woodward and the Glazers won't care how the team performs

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Rakhed•

Why is he known for cowardly?

Because he didnt fire Moyes after a few months?

We did not fire Van Gaal because Jose was planned to take over after the season.

Not sure who would take over if we fire Jose now (I still hope we fire him ofc).

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wakey87433Mata•

Because it fits the narrative for those who want to blame everything on Ed as they believe he is some kind of dictator where every decision is his and his alone

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