Competitive Legacy League 5-0 Decklists December 8th
magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-st...Posted Dec 8, 2018, 9:04 PM UTC
Posted Dec 8, 2018, 9:04 PM UTC
Some very interesting spice.
MonoU omni-show with tragic lesson and no cunning wish or griselbrand
Mono-G post
4c control with dack and punishing fire
UB death's shadow
BUG midrange w/ GSZ and a bunch of 1-of green dudes
ANT
5 color slivers
UR delver w/ risk factor
WB lingering souls/stoneforge... control?
BUG control
BUG something with goyf, jace, daze, and stifle
Goblins
Esper blade featuring gideon, AoZ
Lands
Eldrazi stompy
Moon stompy
Humans
Miracles (Mentor, no AK)
4C loam
Turbo depths
Another goblins list
Eldrazi post
UB control w/ AK
Artifact stompy
Elves
Maverick
Different UR delver, I think this one is grindier
Burn
DnT
Omni-sneak
BUG nic-fit/Aluren
Mana dredge
BUG food chain
BR reanimator
Manaless dredge
Midrange? depths
Manages to 5-0 league.
Still finds away to fuck up by having everyone see that I submitted a 14 card SB🤦♂️😂
I tested that burn list with my friend last night, definitely fun.
4 Exquisite Firecraft sounds better than going full turbo-burn the more I think about it.
Speed isn't really burn's strength, redundancy through having 28+ face damage spells is. Firecraft ensures damage goes upstairs. Even if it is a dot slower, it plays to the deck's strengths much better.
I also like that it insures resolution through force. What cuts would you make in favor of it?
DEANMACHINE's 5-0 list this week is the maindeck I would start with, I like the 19 basic mountain deck lists. Not sold on running five 3-drops, but I'm always down to maindeck Sulfuric Vortex people. The alternatives to the 5th 3-drop are Flame Rift, cards that want fetches, or other 3-drops.
Firecraft takes the flex slots, the ones that are sometimes Searing Blaze (with fetches), Flame Rift, Risk Factor, Grim Lavamancer, Sulfuric Vortex, or whatever you feel like that day. Definitely not opposed to only 3 Firecrafts. Point is, the last few cards for the burn deck are all not ideal. Firecraft has the most upside imo.
Some really interesting lists here. The straight UB Control caught my eye. Also the list with Goyf, Tombstalker, Planeswalkers and Daze really piqued my interest.
UB counterbalance is interesting to see, and that Tombstalker list feels like a contemporary take on 2010.
Glad you liked my UB list :). I'd be happy to answer any questions you have on it if you're looking to try it out yourself.
Well, how did you come up with it? Seems like an interesting amalgamation of Grixis Control and Miracles, without that many copies of (what I think) is Grixis' best card--Hymn to Tourach. Really seems to be in between Miracles' plan of holding mana up and Grixis' plan of tapping out.
I've been looking to switch temporarily from Grixis Control to something else until the meta becomes more favorable to it again, and this seems like a really interesting option.
How well does Mission Briefing work?
How well does Counterbalance work without Portent?
Where do you bring in the singleton Daze in the SB?
Would you say that Kolaghan's Command and Red Elemental Blast/Pyroblast are not that crucial right now considering that the meta seems to be in a somewhat unfair cycle?
Your intuition is correct :). I really liked the miracles shell (specifically AK to win control mirrors) but feel the white cards aren't necessary. In general I play it like a synergy deck, trying to maximize the effectiveness of counterbalance w/ 4 snaps and the mission briefing. I kept hymn to a minimum because like you said it messes with the general desire of the deck to hold up mana and doesn't actually contribute to the synergy at all.
Mission briefing is definite worse than snapcaster mage and is often cut in sideboarding, but I do like it's maindeck inclusion. The theory is that in g1 its removal when you need that and permission when you need that, but post board you just take it out for actual removal or actual permission depending on the matchup.
Counterbalance works great in the deck because you have so many way's to set the top card of your library at instant speed. This deck also plays more 2's than 1's which helps your blind flips in a meta with so many powerful 2 drops (hymn, infernal tutor, exhume, loam, chalice, counterbalance, bitterblossom).
Daze can come in vs r/b reanimator, but it's main inclusion is for delver matchups. I like trimming 2-3 force against them so that you don't lose on card advantage, so the daze is very nice to keep you from getting tempo'd out of the game and lets you tap out on turn two for CB/Strix/Hymn.
The decision to include red or not is a tough one to be sure and obviously there are lots of people who do well with grixis. But I've always had a bias towards having a rock solid manabase and back to basics is insanely important right now. I think the matchups where red for pyroblast matters the most is against other jace decks, and I think that between CB, AK, Hymn, and To The Slaughter you're matchup vs those strategies is already good.
The Maverick list was mine, faced:
U/R Delver 2-0
Eldrazi 2-1
Reanimator 2-0
Turbo Depths 2-0
Storm (can't remember which kind) 2-0
It feels like Legacy really is starting to bloom and shine after drs/probe ban!
14 card sideboard on esper control? lol
Also that BUG midrange/lands list by CaseyC seems cool as all get out.
UR delver with [[Risk Factor]] looks hot.
Also: lol slivers
Risk Factor - (G) (SF) (txt)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
i've always thought [[set adrift]] should see more than zero play
set adrift - (G) (SF) (txt)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Happy to see both BUG combo decks here. I'm not sure how I feel about the nicfit aluren compared to more blue-heavy versions with force of will but this kind of list has managed to 5-0 twice so maybe there's something here.
Hey look it's me finally :D
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did you see that other goblin list? only 2 ringleader but 4 chieftain
was hoping to get my list posted but maybe 2 years from now the next time I 5-0 I'll get it
I've actually played against that guy before, we talked about his list because it's so damn strange. He just said that he straight up does not trust ringleader because it always doesn't hit well for him. Kinda funny.
It might have been collected before your 5-0 since it was so recent. Here's hoping!