/r/gaming recognizes that the portrayal of women in video games is stupid and demeaning. +26.
reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/a60i7/hiresoluti...Posted Nov 19, 2009, 8:31 PM UTC
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I like it when the ladies have big boobs in video games.
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Um, what? This is the opposite of what's happening in that thread. The poster doesn't like Sonya.
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The poster doesn't like Sonya because of how she's being portrayed.
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... because it's demeaning to men. How does this belong in r/Ladybashing under the guideline of highlighting comments that combat sexism against women? The thread doesn't show support for women.
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It's not demeaning to women to display them as sex objects? Huh.
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It very obviously is, but that is not what these posters are objecting to.
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Sonya isn't a real woman. The poster doesn't like her because she's a fake, cookie-cutter blond in a skimpy outfit that uses sex as a weapon.
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The poster doesn't like her because she's a fake, cookie-cutter blond in a skimpy outfit that uses sex as a weapon.
Does the poster actually say this somewhere? S/he is saying almost the opposite in the comment you linked to.
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Sonya is the only character s/he doesn't like. (Presumably there are other women in the game, and presumably these other women are not portrayed un-objectified-ly.)
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The only quality of Sonya mentioned by this poster is a way in which she doesn't fit the sexed-up stereotype.
... But whatever. I know too little about games to quibble. What this definitely isn't, though, is a refusal to like Sonya because she is sexed up. Other commenters' objections also seem to be stemming from how Sonya's character is demeaning to men.
I am failing to see how this belongs in Ladybashing as an example of men recognising how portrayal of women in video games hurts women.
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Because all men are fucking pathetic slaves to their sexual needs and all women are sluts who use their sexuality to get what they want. link
It doesn't take very long to actually read the article, which can be found here. You'll see that it was just four concept designs for possible characters and Sonya was the only woman. You'll see also that the poster above is pointing out how it objectifies men and women. I really don't know what you're talking about.
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No, actually the presumption is that there aren't any other women in the game, and that if they are, they are similarly over-sexualized.
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That's because she fits it in every way possible without giving her more clothes.
You either have no idea what video games are like, or you're trolling me.
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I freely admit I know very little about video games (hint: I said so in as many words in my last comment.) But I don't need to know anything about video games to know that your submission does not belong in r/LadyBashing. I strongly suspect you're the troll since the thread you linked to absolutely does not show r/gaming "recognising that the portrayal of women in video games is stupid and demeaning" to women. (There's one comment which recognises it's stupid and demeaning to men, but r/LadyBashing does not exist to highlight affronts to men.)
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Or you didn't actually read the article yourself.
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There's tons of great comments about the portrayal of women in there. Kudos gaming.
Unfortunately, the highest voted one is this one, which is pretty obnoxious.
EDIT: Actually, that's pretty clearly a joke. Poor taste maybe, but maybe not the right object for ire.
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Dere is no such tings as objects of ire. if you be gettin irie, dat be you problem.
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As a male /gaming subscriber, I can say I have never felt female objectification brought me into the story/virtual world of any game. I imagine a lot of the folks there felt the same way. At the same time, I would not feel right having a 98 pound male represent my character, either.
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[citation needed] Are women being portrayed in a demeaning way, especially when compared to how men are portrayed? Let's try to establish that first.
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I'm thinking back over the catalogue of games I've played, and I can't think of any with an unattractive female character to speak nothing of playable characters.
As for men, well, we start with Mario, look at various animal protagonists, all male, some of which can definitely be seen as stand-ins for unattractive males. Moving forward to present day, it is hard to find examples on either side, but you'll still see men that at least have a decent build to their body - you're generally playing fighters, it's natural that they not be overweight. However, it's also absurd that they be as thin as the Sonya linked in this article. There's a remarkable dearth of muscular women.
Furthermore, you look at armor in RPGs, which magically morphs to expose substantial cleavage whenever a woman puts it on. Female armor with breast shaping makes sense. Armor which exposes the chest? That's demeaning and downright stupid.
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I'm thinking back over the catalogue of games I've played, and I can't think of any with an unattractive female character to speak nothing of playable characters.
I guess you haven't played Maiden Love Revolution
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What in the fuck are you even talking about?
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What the fuck are you even talking about?
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I thought this was bitching about comments that bash ladies, not comments that think that the gaming industry is running out of ways to make women interesting characters in video games.
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Alright, I suppose I'll feed you if it will shut you up. Read the sidebar.
Do: Feel free to highlight positive, supportive or good-humored discussions of the she-folks, as well.
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Didn't realize thats what you girls were about around here. Carry on.
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I don't think the representation of men in video games is much better ...
I wanna be a disembodied gun floating down a hallway when I grow up!