twitter.comPosted Dec 19, 2018, 4:29 PM UTC
Maybe he should stop having children for a bit.
Newwwwwppp. Hes got a third with a different woman on the way!
Are you fucking kidding?
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And also stop playing for the Cubs. My favorite player on the team. Fuck em
The Antonio Cromartie of the MLB
Unless I'm missing something, this doesn't seem to have any relation to domestic abuse, and it sounds like it's a dispute over child support, and she just wants more money. Maybe she's 100% right, but it's a matter for the courts and not for social media.
I agree. This is all speculation on my part, but I’d bet Addison and his advisors/lawyers are seeking ways to lessen his child support contributions and she’s (rightfully) angry about it, so she’s taking a page out of Melissa’s book and calling him out on social media in the hopes to damage his reputation further.
In all honesty I’m not sure of what she hopes to accomplish. It’s a lose-lose situation. Probably not wise from a purely financial standpoint to bite the hand that feeds you. If this has a further impact on his career there will be less of a financial contribution anyway. Also, it sounds like she wants nothing to do with him, but on the other hand she’s also implying Addison isn’t fulfilling his fatherly duties.
“Addison is a terrible person, but he needs to be around our child more. Also he’s not contributing enough money, so I’m going to blast him on social media so his lucrative career is affected and he makes less money.”
I’m going to conclude this with the fact that I 100% believe her, I just don’t understand the motivation beyond her feeling slighted by Addison’s financial and familial contributions.
Edit: switched two sentences around for clarity.
his advisors/lawyers are seeking ways to lessen his child support contributions
I would like to point out that there are situations where this is legitimate. I have no idea what the circumstances regarding Russell’s child support are (nor is it anybody’s business really) but courts have a fair amount of discretion when assigning child support payments and sometimes they can be absurd.
Most judges during an ongoing divorce require the parties to abstain from posting on social media or discussing the issues.
it's a matter for the courts and not for social media.
Hi, have you seen 2018 at all?
You mean 2016
My parents were divorced and had some ugly disputes over child support (I was in the middle of it for years).
My dad was in the wrong and the one who made it needlessly complicated, but I'd still never want a situation like this to be blasted out over social media.
I'll probably get downvoted for this, but I dont think this should have any impact on his status as a Cub, just like I wouldnt have wanted my dad to be fired over a personal matter. Sadly, there are probably dozens and dozens of MLB players involved in child support disputes like this one.
(The domestic violence stuff is a different matter, of course. I'm ok with that affecting a persons employment)
You're sort of implying emotional abuse is ok, but physical abuse isn't. I think both should jeopardize employment.
Ugly disputes
My dad was in the wrong and the one who made it needlessly complicated...but I dont think this should have any impact on his status as a Cub,
The domestic violence stuff is a different matter, of course. I'm ok with that affecting a persons employment
Well, I would argue all child support disputes involve emotional abuse on some level. The children usually get the worst of it. That's just the reality of it. I'm sure on some level Russell sees himself as the victim of emotional abuse as well... that's usually how these things go.
How can you write emotional abuse into a company policy though? It's almost impossible to quantify, which makes codifying it in an employment policy very difficult. If someone is mean to their spouse during a bad time at work, are they subject to termination?
That's a good point, I didn't think about it from the writing the policy standpoint.
Really want this dirtbag off the team. Russell isn't worthy of a Cubs uniform.
Hey kids so how about that Daniel Descalso
Paid the support in quarters and singles and she had to fly home with it. Woof. Dick move.
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There was no reason to believe he was a bad guy as far as we knew as fans up until recently (past year or whatever), certainly not known to the casual fan. Don't kick yourself for it, I would have never guessed there was this side to him either. Better late than never and now it's in the disinfecting sunlight.
Lol just what we need. More knee jerk reactions to 1 side of the story.
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I think Addison is a piece of shit but thats just not how the law works.
If everyone just immediately believed the victims there would be an insane number of false accusations that ruin peoples lives.
Also what does it being 2018 matter?
I believe evidence and i don't jump to conclusions.
You must be the guy who said this last time when Addison was denying the domestic abuse allegations publicly....
I believe her but who cares how he pays child support. So what he has better lawyers and is taking advantage of the legal system to lower child support amounts. I would say that 80% of divorced parents are petty as fuck when it comes to child support/alimony this is just some girl that prob followed through on a threat to blast him on social media if he didn’t pay up. Domestic violence is totally unacceptable and he should be punished for that if he did it, but this on the other hand is a joke if people are getting worked up over it.
Maybe he only wants to pay her for actual child care and not helping pay for cosmetic surgery...
Paid his child support in quarters. I think the Cubs should do the same with his contract this year.
bahahahha
He needs to be gone.
DV is one thing. But I couldn’t care less about a couple’s private child support pettiness tbh. And honestly, if you want to start avoiding all association with anyone who is like this about child support, you’re going to be severing ties with a lot more people than you’d like to admit. And I’m not just talking about sports.
An immediate family member of mine is a lawyer. I’ve heard some very crazy stories about otherwise normal people acting beyond petty about child support. Playing in coins and small bills is probably the least of those. There was one guy (I won’t say who for obvious reasons) who was awarded custody and received child support by the mother (again, I won’t say who). One time, she literally doused her payment in stink bomb liquid before giving it to him. Another time, there was a guy who had to pay child support and didn’t feel like he was being treated fairly. So he stuffed his payment inside of a cooked turkey and sent it to the woman, who’s a vegan.
Child support pettiness is something that reaches far and wide, well beyond pro athletes. Yeah, the person is an ass for doing it, but it’s a lot more common than you’d think.
As for mentioning the kid smelled bad, you bet your ass if I had a kid and was visiting and he child smelled horrible that I’m bringing it up and wanting to know why. Why the hell would anybody be happy about that?
I think you're missing the point if you think her post is only about child support. It seems like the main point she's making is that he is a bad father, doesn't make time for his kids, and doesn't support them in any satisfactory way (including money).
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Wasn’t this posted earlier? Why was it deleted?
it was, by me, but thread was locked i believe because title was not also text of tweet? unsure, but realized the sticky-posted 'offseason rule' and so submitted this.
i also looked for the original instagram posts by Engstrom per rule but could not locate. i am bad at IG.
I would guess that since it is just a discussion about a child support issue that maybe it is not newsworthy enough to post here.
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I doubt he will be coming back to us in the Spring. It's messy messy messy.
This is bad
Not sticking up for Addison. Clearly he has made mistakes as every human has. But for fucks sake when will people learn to stop airing their dirty laundry out on social media.
Edit: Additionally, this does nothing but hurt Addison's ability to make money to help pay for his child's care.
Why should she not post this on social media? You think it's uncouth to talk about and should just not be mentioned?
I view airing your shit on social media as immature. That stuff is private.
No one cares about privacy until we are talking about theirs. That still applies in this situation.
No one cares about privacy until we are talking about theirs.
I really don't understand what you are trying to say with this. Are you saying someone else forced her to share this information publicly?
No I'm saying that I'm sure he doesn't want his child support legal battles aired on social media. Yet she chose to do this. Thus being immature and throwing his privacy out the window.
Do you air every argument you have with your gf/bf online? I sure hope not.
Let's just take a moment to recognize that the official Bang Bros Twitter account replied to this thread. https://i.imgur.com/tKkoFhS.png
DFA this worthless piece of trash. I will boo this man every chance I get.
My mom raised 3 kids alone with no money from my siblings’ dad. This is infuriating to see the team I love support a “man” who doesn’t deserve the physical gifts he has.
And shame on all of you defending the actions of a woman beating coward. Shit, he’s not even good enough to deserve your defenses, which has me believing your support comes from a much worse place.
Cut this scumbag.
For fuck’s sake. Release this guy already
This guy is such a fucking dirtbag. So sick of hearing these stories. Go ahead and downvote me to hell. Don’t give a shit. I think it’s disgust so many people are coming to his defense so easily and readily. I’m a big believer in innocent until proven guilty. But fuck. How many times do we need to hear or read these stories before people are held accountable for their actions. Fuck this guy.
Totally agree with you. All these fucking idiots finding ways to justify this piece of shit. Hes a fucking dirtbag end of story. Its a fucking game people, he should lose the right to play that game. Its not that important that you should over look terrible abuse by this clear psychopath.
Jesus. This gets worse and worse. I know everyone is going to come to his defense and say "we don't have the whole story, these are just accusations, he didn't really do anything", but it's seems pretty conclusive that he's a shitty person. Being an emotionally abusive, cheating, manipulating husband/boyfriend to your wife/mother of your children is one thing. But who is also a dick to their own children by treating them like this?
EDIT: Just to quickly address some things that I'm sure will become bigger talking points. I know this doesn't tie him further to DV, but it's just another ugly side to this story. Furthermore, I understand this attitude of cutting off children due to spoiled relations with the other parent may be fairly common. But I'm not going to lower the standard for human decency because it's more prevalent than one would hope.
He is a shitty person, but this doesn't tie him to further domestic violence issues at least, I guess.
to be honest, a pretty (un)fair number of divorced breadwinners. maybe that makes them all shitty people, or maybe just human, or maybe both or neither depending on the circumstances.
there's room to be circumspect about this, as there's a lot we don't know of course. but i do agree that, however you weigh it, it's another bit of information in the mosaic and obviously many Cubs fans are interested in who Addison is off the field these days.
Not coming to his defense. Fuck him. Too much evidence. I wait for evidence before I make my choices. I choose to condemn him. Same with Murphy. Fuck both of them.
I personally disagree with Murphy’s lifestyle as well, but you just can’t compare the two. A disagreeable belief is not the same as a deplorable action.
I didn’t say verbal bigotry was as immediately devastating as physical abuse. I just said fuck both of them. Russel for abusing women and Murphy for being a bigot.
A disagreeable belief that leads into further oppression because if we're being honest and not ignorantly naive we know that Murphy would readily support things that beat back the rights of LGBTQ+ individuals like all the other fuckheads that spew bigoted shit
Fuck Daniel Murphy and fuck the entire situation with Addison Russell because people act like others can't bring up another relatable subject of shittiness because "oh it's so much less and doesn't matter as much"
I'm just fucking sick and tired y'all I wanna be so done with baseball because fucking people are atrocious and it's getting clearer and clearer that nobody gives a fuck about being actively welcoming and supportive of LGBTQ+ fans like myself
I mean for fuck sake Steve Clevenger got tossed from baseball for being racist but Daniel Murphy gets defended and "what he said isn't all that bad" for being a fucking homophobe
I think the difference between Murphy & Russell is we don't know if Murphy actually has negatively impacted a person's life because of his views. Whereas Russell has destroyed multiple with his direct actions.
I don't like what Murphy said either and there's no excuse. But comparing his statements to Russell's actions is incredibly disproportionate.
100% agree when it comes to Russell. Fuck him. But Murphy? Sure, I don't agree with what he said or believes. But as long as he's still treating people with respect, he's allowed to have his opinions. We can't just hate on someone because they have a specific view on someone. Only hate on someone when they are actively seeking to hurt someone.
If he said that about black people or Jews we’d be calling it incredibly hurtful. Why does homophobia get a pass?
Why are we supposed to applaud his “diverse beliefs” when it amounts to bigotry?
Fuck bigots and fuck his defenders, man.
What’s hurtful is his views, his mentality, which has led to tragedy and death for gay people for generations. So yes it’s hurtful. Fuck. Him.
You don’t have to be gay to understand that an attack on one person for what makes them different is an attack on anyone for what makes all of us different. This isn’t just about gay people, it’s about respect.
Because it's a belief. He said in the same statement that he wasn't shutting any doors and wanted to invest in him, just that he didn't agree with a life style. It's not like he said they aren't people or shouldn't have rights. He just said he disagreed with the life style.
He is allowed that opinion the same way that we are allowed to believe there is NOTHING wrong with being gay.