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DPRKunicorn

Socially Delusional

So with emotions nawed away and living in solitary confinement for years Id say that many of us are socially delusional, living in a bubble.

This is the first time in my life that i started believing that my perception of the peers interacting with me is completely and utterly wrong. Back in my early teens i believed that people conspired against me, so i behaved wierdly to hide the real "me". Now, debuting my 20s, my social theories are very different but still very strange...

I just dont know anything about human interaction. I have very shallow ideas of how to react to certain cues, i cant react to unexpected situations(like an unfamilliar girl saying hello to me, or some random angry person screaming me down), so i dont react to them and ignore them.

Ive also realised that especially women start talking about me in a very positive light if they see me doing some act of kindness/common courtessy like freeing my seat on the train for the elderly or for women with children. Im doing those things just to avoid confrontation and because of my collectivist thought(certainly not acts of compassion).

Its strange, trying to get the whole picture is like reading underwater , you get only certain letters right. You may read something that isnt there too.

Posted Dec 23, 2018, 9:33 PM UTC · edited

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lurkrul/r/schizoidTalk•

You're partly right... 99% of people are running on auto-pilot; staying within the comfort of their bubbles. You say women notice you when you give up your seat, that's just because it is unusual in that you're making a concious decision to go outside of your bubble, for what appears to be an altruistic reason. Otherwise, there is no spotlight on you.

They say human interaction is - 7% the words you say, 38% the tone in which you say them, and 55% in body language (mostly eye contact, eyebrows, smiling, stance facing other person). There's not much to overthink unless you really try. You can get through 90% of interactions with head nods, 'uh-huhs', and parroting what the other person says. Otherwise just learn how to ask basic questions and you can get by in any interaction. Keep it Simple, Take it Easy.

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margobisbeeasd, heavy traits. •

and 55% in body language (mostly eye contact, eyebrows, smiling, stance facing other person).

That's legit crazy to me. I would say for me about 5% of communication is body language. Unless they seem really irritable I don't even think about it.

Until reading a lot of post on Reddit talking about it, I had no idea people even try to read each other in conversations. That's pretty much a foreign concept to me. When I'm talking to someone my mind is just completely silent and I formulate what I want to say after they stop talking.

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CommonMisspellingBot•

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BooCMB•

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ComeOnMisspellingBot•

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ChrisWillson•

I do find that being so isolated and unexposed has led me to believe I am more socially adept than I actually am. Most of the "interactions" I have are imaginary conversations with other people that go really smoothly, unsurprisingly. Gives me a false sense of my abilities.

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jamjam_rotundDiag. SPD/SzPD+OCPD traits+Psychosis NOS ONLY REAL SCHIZOID•

" Ive also realised that especially women start talking about me in a very positive light if they see me doing some act of kindness/common courtessy like freeing my seat on the train for the elderly or for women with children. "

Believe me, dudes get praised for the most minimal acts of kindness. xD This is nothing to take pride in. Women don't get that praise from other women because it's expected.

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lvbzz•

In my experience people usually have good intentions. Be kind and they're generally nice to you as well. And if they're not, at least I tried and behaved in a way I want the world to work. My gut instincts often tell me to be selfish and ignore people altogether, but rationally i don't believe in a system in which everyone is only out there for their own gain.

(also, people in general seem to overestimate the amount of time other people spend thinking/talking about them, there's probably a lot less conspiring going on than people believe)

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erikole211•

Thats why people say that you need to get out of your comfort zone

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BryanKBenning33•

In your teens they probably were conspiring against you. Teen behavior does not follow the same rules as the behavior of adults. I had a real problem understanding why people behave so differently after high school, I didn't see why what I saw in high school would change in college.

But giving away your seat to women on a train sounds like sillly white knight behavior and when you say it gets you positive attention from women I sure hope you aren't foolish enough to be attempting to use that to get dates because that is not how women become attracted to men. Why do you need that kind of altruistic bullshit attention from women?

And collectivist thought is stupid, stop denying yourself for the benefit of complete strangers. I might get up for an old lady who is feeble, but I'm sure not deferring to a woman simply because of her gender. If you want Feminism and equality then I will treat you equally and you find your own damn seat.

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DPRKunicornOP/r/schizoid•

THIS... This is the perfect example for social delusions, because of living a solitary life you no longer have the idea how society works and internet starts making your judgement blunt. Internet propaganda is very vicious and ive spiralled down this road quite a few times until i realised someone is manipulating me and all of us sheeples with stupid AI , bots and trolls...

Trust me, pregnant women, stressed out mothers or old people need the seat more than your average healthy man.

The society gives me food, education etc... Thats why im not leeching on it, instead im trying to make it benefit by other small things.

Also i think you didnt read my post thoroughly...

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hassapiadph•

I don't understand what qualifies as social delusion in his post? Could you clarify? And what has that to do with internet propaganda?

Of course these people need a seat more, but what do I care? This does not qualify as social delusion but rather a lack of empathy. If collectivism is important to you then you'd act a certain way but if your own wellbeing is most important you act another.

Why shouldn't I leech if I can? Why should I give back?

And why is it social delusion if I care more about myself instead about others? This doesn't make sense to me.

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DPRKunicornOP/r/schizoid•

We all have a filter... Our filter lets us perceive things differently. When solitary the only source shaping your filter are forums and social networks and not actual people, this creates a delusional picture of the society and people you interact with. Social delusion is simply perceiving interaction differently than the majority, what he does.

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hassapiadph•

But that's not what I am getting from his post. At least this specific one. There is a difference between perceiving social interaction and judging it.

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BryanKBenning33•

You are inventing imaginary internet foes with imaginary internet lives, you are so brainwashed into this collectivist nonsense that you cannot grasp that I'm out among real people on a regular basis and yet I still don't buy into your collectivist ideology.

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inabox01•

Why do you consider forums and social networks "not actual people?"

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BryanKBenning33•

Who says I'm solitary? I'm around actual people in real life all the time buddy. I have no social delusions, we live in an individualist world, everyone is out for themselves, so why shouldn't I do the same?

You just can't stand that not everyone shares your outdated collectivist mindset which you were brainwashed into by your parents from growing up in Eastern Europe which had been Communist until the 1990's.

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BryanKBenning33•

He thinks that if you are out among people on a regular basis you just naturally fall into a mindset of thinking collectively, he has turned this into something that resembles a religious faith and he cannot imagine anyone feeling different from himself.

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BryanKBenning33•

North Korean supporting dog shit is planning a Socialist Utopia:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/7dvyud/when_slavs_play_minecraft_socialist_city_in_its/

I rest my case about this Communist moron.

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my_curmudgeon_acct•

He's being ironic ya dingus

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BryanKBenning33•

For starters, nice North Korea name of DPRK, it lets me know right off the bat that I'm dealing with a Communist moron.

I know how society works, we get food from individual producers who are affiliated with corporations and they are paid quite well for their efforts, we don't owe them anything more than purchasing their food products, we certainly don't owe them that we should follow an imaginary moral code that invents subjective values of who needs special privilege on a God damn train more than someone else.

Nobody "needs" the seat more than a healthy man, the idea of need is subjective, and we all have the same rights and equality under the law, and thus there is no rule requiring that we favor one person over the other.

We also pay taxes to fund schools and we pay for college tuitions for our children, so these are not gifts handed out by the state.

I don't see how any of us are leeching off of society since our parents have paid a lifetime of taxes many of which went to fund stupid wars and the military-industrial complex. If the government could afford to waste so much of our parents money on junk like that, we sure don't owe society any debt to carry out bogus collectivist moral actions which are not required in the first place.

You are not helping society by white knighting bogus moral acts that are unnecessary to begin with. In fact, by your ridiculous actions you make men look a bit more cuckier than they need to be.

I did read your post thoroughly and you are a brainwashed Socialist loser. Get back to me when you have adopted the real truth of Libertarian values.

And by the way son, no one is manipulating you with AI, bots, or trolls, you might want to increase your meds.

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DPRKunicornOP/r/schizoid•

I wont even bother reading your post. North korea has nothing to do with my personality... This has nothing to do with communism... Humans evolved to rely on collective ideas... Without them we wouldnt exist, since we are too weak on our own.

Oh I get it its because of the word DPRK haha... Actually its to make fun of north korean unicorn lairs. Just because i happen to be from eastern europe and reflect the distopian communist attitude of the 70s in minecraft doesnt mean im communist.

You are a very impoverished mind for reading through all my Subs just to assume that im a "Staatsfeind". Reminds me of the old ex KGB socialist patriots we have here willing to do anything to people who disaggree with them...

At this point im not even sure if youre schizoid... You have very emotional reactions.

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BryanKBenning33•

In America we evolved with individualist ideas and we are the leading economic power in the world. We have moved beyond your outdated Socialism.

I realize you are Socialist Eurotrash which is your personality and you have the impoverished mind son, not me. I'm not a desperate Eurotrash Communist little boy trying to get attention from women on trains with phony and unnecessary collectivist acts in a Capitalist modern world that has moved beyond such behavior.

And of course you are from Eastern Europe and you still hold those old Communist attitudes. You never got over the Soviet Eastern bloc brainwashing.

Which low GDP nation are you from? Bulgaria?

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Ennuendo•

I also can free a seat or hold an entrance door for some crazy old lady, but thats 100% autopilot. Being kind doesnt grow any new fruits for me, not even the self-esteem.

High-functional psychos or simply "street-smart" people are in a much better position.. While he's holding the door, he's already got a plan how to relieve the old hag of her jewellery :)

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