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chroniq

Requested: My friend is a Muslim man married to 3 wives. Ask him almost anything!

I am with my friend now, he has finally agreed to answer some of your questions. He's pretty outspoken and might seem like an asshole at times, but he is a pretty nice guy.

To give you a background on him: He is not a hardcore Muslim, but he believes in it and would probably disagree with anything that goes against it, most of the time. He drinks sometimes, when abroad the country, but only his really close friends know about it. He also doesn't mind the company of hookers from time to time, also when abroad.

Finally, to keep his identity, he would like to be known as "Bo Yacoub" which will be his pseudonym.

edit: I am translating everything he says, so the responses might sound weird because I am typing as he speaks. I'll try to edit anything that seems out of place.

edit: OK guys, I am gonna head out home its 6 am here, he has had fun answering your questions. If you have more, just leave your questions here and he'll be sure to answer them tomorrow.

edit: And He's back, to answer the first common question that was asked like 20 times: "Why are you friends so obsessed with having sex with more than woman at the same time? Tell them, no. As much as I like to dream about it sometimes, it has never happened and never will."

edit: sorry guys I didn't see him yesterday at night, but I will see him again tomorrow and I'll answer the remaining questions, sorry for the delay.

Posted Nov 28, 2009, 9:26 PM UTC · edited

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chroniqOP•

In your opinion, are your wives happy? "My wives are very happy, as far as I can tell, they couldn't be any happier, there are sometimes when one or more of them seems less content, but that usually doesn't last for too long till they just forget and start to get along with one another."

Are you happy? "I consider my self to be a lucky man, considering I have the attention of 3 women every day who strive to please me when they can, especially if they want something. There are times where I wish I would rather no wives at all, but just like my wives, I tend to forget"

Why did you marry 3 wives? "Its complicated. I married the first one and we were very happy the first 4 years, till I realized she cannot have children. So she recommended that I get married to someone young so I can have a child. I was skeptical at first, but she insisted as she is a very traditional woman. So she picked my second wife for me. A couple of years later, my first wife had my first child at the same time my second wife had trouble with getting pregnant. Years later, I married my third and most favored, because she use to be the wife of a close friend of mine who passed away. I found it to be my duty to step in and give and her children a home."

For the love of everything that is holy, How do you manage? "Well, I will tell you its not easy at times. But you have to understand when to be the man of the house and say 'no' and when to be the loving gentle and caring husband. You have to set boundaries. Most of all you have to show them who is in charge. Because without a captain, a vessel wouldn't make it very far."

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cup•

Because without a captain, a vessel wouldn't make it very far.

Preparing for feminist storm..

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chroniqOP•

hahah I tried to explain to him that people with "western" views would be reading this, but he insisted.

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Kowai03•

I can captain my own ship thank you very much.

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I agree to some degree. I think that the male/female relationship works best when the male is dominant, and the female is submissive. But the woman isn't worth any less, and her role isn't any less important. The woman feels security from her man, and the man gets support from the woman. I'm not saying that the man should have more of a say in any matter - it's purely a psychological dynamic with strong mutual respect. It just feels right, if anybody knows what I mean, and seems to work out very well when done right.

It seems natural for our species, as it is for many others.

EDIT: Christ.

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byron•

I'm going to go ahead and guess that you just happen to be a member of the 'dominant' group?

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avivi•

If the man has no more say in any matter than a woman does, how the hell is he dominant?

Also, I completely disagree with the assertion that men need to be the dominant partner. However, I think that within any relationship, there is an equilibrium of give and take. Both parties need to work towards knowing when to get their way and knowing when to allow the other to have theirs. This process is independent of gender but dependent on personality types.

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Tokacheif•

Ok. I disagree with you on a number of levels, let me explain why.

Let me first state that this is all my perspective, and explain where I am coming from. I am a white male (a member of the privileged class), with a formal education in Intercultural Communications.

What you're describing is your personal code of ethics. It seems that you feel that in order for a relationship to work, the male should be in a dominant role. Now this isn't very different from what most people think and how most relationships work. But instead of assuming that this is the right way, let's take into account other ways to approach this dilemma.

In my education experience, I've found that Gender Roles are adopted, accepted, and perpetuated by members of society. Usually the roles that members of each gender play, are determined by the dominant or privileged group (in this case males) for the benefit of that group and at the expense of freedoms that would normally be enjoyed by the submissive group (females).

Now this doesn't only work with gender roles, it falls under the ideology of Supremacism. Perhaps in your experiences you have found...

that the male/female relationship works best when the male is dominant, and the female is submissive.

While this may be true in many cases, we can't ignore the fact that the model male/female relationship that you're describing may be learned behavior that you're mistaking for as you say a ...

psychological dynamic

So if we look at your argument now, I feel it's safe to say that you're making some presumptuous assumptions about the dynamics of relationships.

In response to a later post you made.. this line stuck out in my mind..

Even gay relationships tend to divide up into a "butch" and "bitch" situation.

This is an assumption you're making based off stereotyping words and you really have no evidence of this division. Did you take into account trans-gender or bi-sexual relationships, where the individuals choose not to identify with defined Gender Roles or Sexualities? Where do they fall in your "Butch and Bitch" categories?

As a postmodernist and a member what I consider a progressive, open-minded generation, that should be working towards equality for all humans regardless of race, gender, etc.. there's really no way I can read something like this and let people like you get away with perpetuating and enforcing ideas of dominance and superiority.

Now I can see why the OP would see things this way, being raised in a different culture from our own, but seeing someone who is also another westerner perpetuate these ideas... Well... It makes me feel sick, and somewhat hopeless for the societal changes people like Martin Luther King, Elizabeth Stanton have fought and died for.

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As a girl, I want to agree with you to a point. It's of course not true for all cases, and it's not, like you said, a total dominance of power by the man.

But it's true that a girl wants to feel security from a guy.

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Aww look at the hungry troll.

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furixx•

i am not a feminist but ugh.

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Vertyx•

being a feminist just means you belive men and women should have equal rights. So you don't?

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gulrezdoc•

thanks for this AMAA.

Apologies if this is a hard question. I was wondering about sex, I mean threesome ?

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chroniqOP•

Ok I asked the question to him and he just said .. "hahaha I wish, but no"

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[deleted]•

Is it a no because he has sex with all three of his wives making it a foursome?

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InternetOfficer•

You are a naughty boy. Now, go to my room.

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ice11•

Will the other wives touch him after he has had sex with one of his other wives? Is there any tension there or do they all seem to support this marriage?

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chroniqOP•

"There is an unwritten rule, its like they can sense it. As far as tensions go, I try to be fair among them."

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walrus0•

Shia or Sunni?

What is the age gap between your first wife other wives?

How many children do you have?

Does each wife have a separate bedroom?

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chroniqOP•

"All of my family, including me are Sunni. I have 4 Children, 3 of which are not mine but from my third wife from a previous marriage. They all sleep in separate floors in my house. Basically, they have their own apartment. It's the only to keep the peace."

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sapphireblue•

How big is your house? I take it that it is at least three stories high. How many rooms?

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chroniqOP•

"The house indeed is three stories high, it has around 15 rooms. I've had to remodel it when I married my third wife"

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sapphireblue•

Wow, very impressive! How can you afford such a big house? What do you do for a living?

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kounavi•

I don't really have a question, but I just felt like saying that even though I strongly disagree with a lot of that religious and social/sexist stuff, I think he sounds like a good man and I wish him and his family the best. Taking care of the third woman and the kids was really a great thing to do, in my book. Even though I have my objections, I realize this is normal where they come from.

Maybe, after all, I do have a question, though. Will he raise his daughters (if any) to be dependent on men, or will he try to educate them and broaden their horizons? Cause it seems to me he can afford it.

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chroniqOP•

"Thank you for your comment. As to your question all I have to say is, men and women have their roles in life. I believe that woman, just like men, are allowed certain types of freedom. But with women, sometimes you have to be more protective I believe. I believe that my daughters must have a choice in what they study, what they work and who they choose to marry. But as I said earlier, they are only allowed the freedoms given to us by our religion, that is my limit."

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[deleted]•

So obviously then no freedom of religion. Hip, man.

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Is there a ranking among the wives, like in old Chinese tradition with the first wife being the most powerful?

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chroniqOP•

"There is no ranking system as such, I would have to say that sometimes I do favor one more than the other, but I try my best not to show it. If I give one wife more leverage than the other, then I will end up having to deal with more nagging than I am use to. So to play it safe, I try my best to treat them all equal, or at least keep the image of that. They are not stupid, they can see it sometimes, so I try my self to rectify the situation. Usually this includes a vacation for the pissed wife, no where too fancy so the others don't get too jealous."

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Do you have a schedule made for nightly visits to insure that you don't have a wife more sexually than the other?

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chroniqOP•

"Not really, I don't plan anything, I plan every night as if I was going to sleep alone and see where the night takes me."

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CandyManCan•

I bet the wives have thier own system and you onli believe it's random

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eigen•

Has there ever been a night when you really did end up sleeping alone? Do your wives try to convince you to spend the night with them instead of another one?

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coleman57•

if all else fails, how many nights do you spend alone, on average?

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CandyManCan•

With births of sexes nearly equal, do you feel it was unfair of you to have three wives, presumably leaving two men with none?

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chroniqOP•

"I rarely see this as a problem in my society anyway, most men get a chance to get married, but the problem is mostly with women who end up dying alone because of their large number, not many get the chance to get married at least here in Kuwait I am not sure what it is like outside"

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zobdos•

Most men get the chance to be married to several women but not many women get the chance to be married? Are there several times more women then men in Kuwait or what?

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tzan•

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2018.html

total population: 1.54 male(s)/female (2009 est.)

quite the opposite actually.

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Most of the male population are expats. Also, every 3 of 4 people in Kuwait are expats.

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chroniqOP•

"I don't want to sound like I have all the answers, but that is what we were told and that is what we see, Kuwait is a very small country after all I think the worst thing we have right now is the level of divorce, all these kids getting married and divorced within days, it is so sad."

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Tsukuyomi•

Do you flaunt your wives to other people from different religious backgrounds?

To tell you the truth. I'm actually jealous.

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chroniqOP•

"In Islam you are taught to treat your wives and family like something sacred. Flaunting them would mean you do not respect them the way you should. I do not see my self as a man who other men should be jealous of, I believe that one man's dream is another man's nightmare, with that said I would not trade my life for another"

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Davin900•

He sounds like a wise man. Thanks for the interview.

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or he's just reciting scripture...

I mean, how could you really tell?

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zanthraxnl•

He sounds like a man repeating what he read in a book/heared in church. Not a real sign of intelligence if you ask me.

But that is probably my extreme hate for anything religious talking.

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Dilettante•

When you married your second wife, was there a honeymoon where the two of you spent time alone together? How did your first wife react?

How did your first two wives react to you marrying your late friend's wife?

If I recall correctly, Islam allows a man to marry four wives if he can afford it. Would you consider marrying a fourth wife?

What things do your wives do together, and what things do they do separately? For example, do they share the duties of cooking, cleaning, shopping, or raising the children?

In Christian families, there can be conflict between husbands and wives over which family they spend Christmas (or, in North America, Thanksgiving) with. Do you have any problems with your three sets of in-laws?

Thanks for this interesting IAMA.

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chroniqOP•

When you married your second wife, was there a honeymoon where the two of you spent time alone together? How did your first wife react?

"She chose my second wife for me, we did go on a 2 week honeymoon to Cyprus. My first wife did not mind because she knew exactly what to expect. I always have this feeling that she asked me to get married not so much so I can have a child, but more to have a friend with her at home"

How did your first two wives react to you marrying your late friend's wife?

"There wasn't a long discussion about it, to tell you the truth I did not take anyones opinion on the situation, I had made my decision and stuck by it because it was the right thing to do, I did not feel any resentment from my wives."

What things do your wives do together, and what things do they do separately?

"Cooking? my first and second wife do not cook. We have a cook at home, she takes care of their needs. My wives are very untraditional, they do not have any roles per say, most of their work is taken care of by the maids"

In Christian families, there can be conflict between husbands and wives over which family they spend Christmas (or, in North America, Thanksgiving) with. Do you have any problems with your three sets of in-laws?

"We go visit them all on Eid, but I end up having lunch at one house, usually Eid Fitr is spent at my first wives, second and third day are either at my second wives in-laws or third depending on the situation. But I go to all of them"

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ponyolovesHAM•

Happy belated Eid btw

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InternetOfficer•

"There wasn't a long discussion about it, to tell you the truth I did not take anyones opinion on the situation, I had made my decision and stuck by it because it was the right thing to do, I did not feel any resentment from my wives."

So you had planned to marry your friend's wife before he was dead?

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subheight640•

To Bo Yacoub:

What do you think about Western lifestyles and beliefs?

Thanks for answering my question!

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chroniqOP•

"I don't mean to sound offensive, but I find westerners and the way they live their life weird. I will probably not understand it, no matter how many american pie movies I see."

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ponyolovesHAM•

Oh please base it on something other than American Pie! XD A lot of westerners find Kuwaiti ways of life weird, but I like this AMA, thank you for being so open to answer personal questions!

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Kowai03•

Also we're not all American!!

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[deleted]•

lesbians are americans, too.

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[deleted]•

Can you elaborate?

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JohnDoe06•

I don't see anything wrong with this as long as the wives and kids are treated equally well.

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chroniqOP•

When I told him what you said he just said "see! this guy gets it, your such a moron" the moron part is directed at me.

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spacedad•

You actually disagree on this point? I don't understand why the conventions of western marriage are so deeply ingrained as to make everything else immoral. The problems that we have with polygamy largely stem from the abuse that many women in polygamist relationships experience (see: FLDS in the United States). So long as all are treated equally well, and there isn't any abuse, it's really not that different from an "open" relationship, except everyone is actually committed.

And based on the response to Dilettante's question, it looks like he takes really good care of all parties involved. God damn!

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furixx•

the main difference is that the man can do what he wants, but the women can not (ie. get theirs on the side as well). hardly balanced. some women might accept that due to personal or cultural preferences. but they should have the choice not to.

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spacedad•

I think they all had the choice not to get married, but chose marriage to a successful businessman instead. Not a ridiculous choice considering cultural and personal influences (ie: culturally the thought is that you should get married, personally it's nice to get taken care of well when married). If they want to "get their on the side" they're perfectly free to, but they'll be giving up the marriage, because that wasn't the arrangement.

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WTF_guy_FTW•

My uncle is married to two women. He has children from both of them, and the children from the second (younger) wife refer to the first wife as "mama".

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Kowai03•

As a woman.. It's so hard not to feel angry at this. I hope that it truly is an equal situation for all parties. I really do.

I don't need a man to lead me, I need a man to be my partner.

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wyo•

I don't need a man to lead me, I need a man to be my partner.

Just because that's what you need or want, does not mean that all of womankind has the same needs or wants as you.

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furixx•

so do you think all muslim women need to be controlled by their man, as if they were a pet? get real.

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wyo•

Who said any such thing? My point is only that each and every person has their own priorities, desires, and needs, and one shouldn't feel angry just because someone has a different set from their own.

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furixx•

fair enough but it seems to me like muslim women don't have a choice as to what they like and don't like. that is my issue.

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Kowai03•

You tell me that all women are different, and I do agree with that, however you say it in defence of a man who believes that all women need to be lead?

There are most likely men out there who like to be taken charge of, but I could never say that I believe that all men should be taken charge of.

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lumpyoatmeal•

How old are you and your wives?

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[deleted]•

Do they do foursomes?

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Im36•

no, they can't

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[deleted]•

Well then Islam just lost this potential convert.

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InternetOfficer•

Too late you are already signed up. Pick up this vest and head to the nearest market now.

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Im36•

okay ...

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dorel•

I'm still hopping that the submitter's friend has a different answer.

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spacedad•

no, they don't

FTFY

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lordweiner27•

-Are you a good lover?
-What are the sexual differences between your partners? Do they vary greatly in what they like? For example does one like it hard and another like it soft. Does one orgasm easily and another with difficulty?

I apologise if Bo Yacoub finds these questions to personal, but I'm a sex writer so these would help me out a lot.

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psylent•

Sure you are buddy.

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sir_bunny•

Have you ever watched Big Love?

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chroniqOP•

He's not big on tv or movies. He watches TV sometimes but nothing too fancy or anything he would watch again. I actually brought him some episodes of Big Love, he said he would watch them.

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Virtualmatt•

How do your wives get along with each other? Do two of them gang up on another?

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orata•

Have you ever traveled to non-Muslim countries with your family? If so, how did the travel/hotel arrangements work? Would you have to rent a suite with separate rooms for everyone?

You said you decide on a night by night basis where to sleep, assuming you'll be sleeping alone and seeing where things take you as the night progresses. Do you only sleep with your wives when having sex, or do you also literally sleep with them--just sleeping or cuddling in the same bed, no sex? And if so, is there any disagreement or jealousy about who gets to sleep with you and how often?

Are there official forms for taxes, power of attorney, etc. where you can list as many wives as you have? Here in the US, you can file your taxes as "Single" "married," "head of household", etc. with different tax benefits being granted to different marital statuses. But of course there is only one blank you can fill in for "spouse's name." Do you need to fill in all your wives as spouses? If any of them have income, do they need to file taxes and take the other wives into account on their returns?

Or if, for example, you had a car accident and were in the hospital, and your wives disagreed with each other on what course to take with your medical care, is there any kind of hierarchy or legal precedent that would give one of them the deciding vote?

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chroniqOP•

"I never travel with more than one or two at most at the same time. I do not always choose the bed I sleep in based on the reason that there will be sex involved, sometimes we just end up talking till we go to sleep. While there use to be some jealousy at the beginning on who gets more attention, that has been resolved for the most part with time."

"We do not have taxes here in Kuwait, with that said all of what I own will be divided among my wives and their children. My first wife has power of attorney, I trust her the most as she is the wisest."

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Africanishia•
  1. What is Bo Yacoub's view of Americans? (Like how would he describe an American?)
  2. Has Bo Yacoub ever had one of his wives walk in while having sex with a different one?
  3. Did Bo Yacoub Sr. have multiple wives?
  4. Does Bo Yacoub think he will marry more wives in the future?
  5. What are Bo Yacoub's children's opinions on having multiple mothers?
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christpunchers•

I hate coming late to IAMA's that interest me.

I have a few question about the women:

Do they have jobs? Or are they stay-at-home mothers? I assume they wear the hijab, but do they wear a burka? If not, what are your thoughts about wearing the burka?

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