Patrick Stewart on Domestic Violence - If my mother had picked up a knife, I would have held her hand as she did it.
Posted Dec 3, 2009, 12:51 AM UTC
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He falls into the same paradigm trap - domestic violence, according to his statements here, is perpetrated only by men and only against women. that is false.
He defends three women convicted of murder.
He mentions that 10 women commit suicide every week due to DV. Men commit suicide at a rate of 3 or 4 to one woman.
framing all domestic violence as men against women is an insult.
the text in the opening frame is an insult:
"created equal" - a new book on women's rights
(damn the men to hell - what do we care?)
11 minutes in, he mentions that men can be victims of dv, and discusses it at great length for 15 seconds.
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Perhaps he concentrates on violence against women because the book that was being promoted was a book on womens rights. If it were a book on violence against men, the 15 second digression would have been about the prevalence of violence against women. Even if he is less informed on the statistics of domestic violence against men, it doesn't really matter in this particular forum.
He defends three women convicted of murder.
I find it strange that you chose to simplify what he said so drastically.
I'm also not sure why you're so offended by a book about women's rights. If there was a book called Created Equal about men's rights and violence against men, would you say a female would be justified in being insulted by it? It's not excluding men by denying the existence of rights violations of violence against men, it's merely focusing on the topic as it pertains to women.
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Perhaps he concentrates on violence against women because the book that was being promoted was a book on womens rights.
which is my primary complaint, as I said above:
the text in the opening frame is an insult:
"created equal" - a new book on women's rights
though the book's name is "created equal, " it's not about equality at all.
If there was a book called Created Equal about men's rights and violence against men, would you say a female would be justified in being insulted by it?
are you saying the jezebel babes, marcotte, and jill "i blame the patriarchy" smith wouldn't complain about a book that equated Equality with elevating the status of men?
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are you saying the jezebel babes, marcotte, and jill "i blame the patriarchy" smith wouldn't complain about a book that equated Equality with elevating the status of men?
I do not think the average female would be offended by a book like that. But interestingly enough, you've just implied that you're the male version of a feminazi who would be offended.
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are you saying the jezebel babes, marcotte, and jill "i blame the patriarchy" smith wouldn't complain about a book that equated Equality with elevating the status of men?
So then, by being offended by the female version of such a book, are you thus implying that you're the male version of a feminazi?
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are you saying the jezebel babes, marcotte, and jill "i blame the patriarchy" smith wouldn't complain about a book that equated Equality with elevating the status of men?
I do not think the average female would be offended by a book like that. But interestingly enough, you've just implied that you're the male version of a feminazi who would be offended.
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To be fair, his mother did not abuse his father. He is speaking from his experiences, not the world's. He does acknowledge domestic violence against men, but it would be silly for him to discuss it in depth, as he is not speaking as an authority on domestic violence in general - just his own experiences with it.
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Fucking idiot.
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This is kind of a trigger and I know it's not necessarily contributing to a discussion for me to write this out, but seeing the title brought some bad memories back to the surface, you know?...
I grew up with a very complicated family situation, and my mother was a victim of abuse by her second husband.
I remember having heard them once, from behind a locked door. My mother was screaming for me to call the police. After I did, I grabbed a steak knife from the kitchen and braced myself against the wall near the door.
I... well, I just stayed there like that until the police came. He never came out of that room. I heard every moment, though... my mother just kept screaming and crying. I very strongly suspect that he raped her.
I was also not a violent child, but at that moment, I felt like I would have killed him to make him stop. Seeing someone you love being hurt can turn you into a different creature entirely.