Cute. This comment got a few downvotes and guess who got blamed.
reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/aalp3/a_dad_loses_h...Posted Dec 3, 2009, 1:58 PM UTC
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Like a woman can never be in the wrong or that the system isn't in anyway skewed towards a mother's favor.
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Women like you make me sick.
I don't think that was called for. What everyone here has a problem with is his edit and his claiming either all or some women have something to hide by downvoting him. The original downvotes were bots, and the rest of them were after his edit. Reddit is astounding in it's ignorance and willingness to support things like this comment.
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This is a subreddit devoted to systematic downvoting of anything posted. It's a misandrist institution designed to spread a fundamentalist response to anything conceived as anti-women.
How can you even pretend otherwise? That's what this subreddit is. A place to gather so women can systematically downvote men en masse.
Rant all you want, but that's where we are. We're in a place designed to encourage mass, blind downvoting.
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Uhhh...pointing out a sexist comment is automatically misandry? I don't confuse one male making an insensitive comment with all men, and I highly doubt anyone else here does the same.
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First of all, how many women are on reddit? How many use it regularly? Not many. This site is overwhelmingly male, and for you to say it's horrible that a handful of women are downvoting posts is weird. Plus, you're now getting yours because this thread is linked in that comment, and so everyone here is getting downvoted.
How is this any different from the best of subreddit? You go to those comments and upvote because you like it. Over here, you go to a comment that says things about the very small amount of women on this site and downvote. You generalize and you hate, and then cry because maybe 15 or 20 women are downvoting you. Also, there is r/ladybashers, a very nice parody of this place. You're angry like the rest of everyone else coming in here. I'm glad this subreddit is here, and I can proudly say I inspired it because of a post I made way back.
Edit- also notice that most comments here are downvoted regardless of what the person is saying. I think it's safe to say reddiquette was thrown out the window quite some time ago. I don't even know why we bother with that anymore.
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I hate when people just say shit
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Fuck off.
No, YOU fuck off. You and the other oestrogen-tripping members of your sorority show visible and vitriolic contempt towards any man who posts an anecdote involving mistreatment by a woman, and yet in the reverse situation you demand the male abuser be subject to the worst kind of vigilante justice you can think of at the time.
You're hypocritical, manipulative, and hate-filled and yet you argue that it's men who have the problem.
and then go fuck yourself.
No, YOU go and fuck yourself.
Cunt.
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Wowwwww. You're completely misreading where the controversy is. I don't see any women attacking this guy because of his anecdote. It all has to do with his edit where he assumed there was some lady-conspiracy against him, downvoting him so our secret wouldn't get out. Your comment is full of really unfounded assumptions.
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He posted a comment casting a vaguely negative light upon women and it was met with a torrent of downvotes. Who the fuck do you think did it, the fairies? Additionally, any time a female redditor posts a vaguely misandrist comment that gets a downvote she immediately jumps on the "fucking arrogant pig men" bandwagon; more often than not, anyway.
Your comment is full of really unfounded assumptions.
Mine is as full of unfounded assumptions as yours is full of cogent and verifiable fact.
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Real classy.
The OP of this submission used the exact same language against him. But she gets off the hook, right? The inequality in this subreddit is just astounding.
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Feminist bitches.
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You know you have it easy, if you have a child and break up with the childs father. The courts always side with the mothers, who the mothers then seek revenge and use the children as leverage and play the sympathy card. Every lady with a kid does not want to work, she just wants to sit at home and reap the benefits.
Not all ladies but about 97% of them.
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This AGAIN? Really? 97% of women do this? Can I please see some chart or some evidence that supports this? You're pulling numbers like this out of thin air, and you know it. You already have 2 upvotes just for saying this.
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No, I am not getting upvotes, I am getting It's the god damn truth votes.
The chart is a sacred chart, you're a girl you have this programmed into your head. Come on now.
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I don't agree that 97% is the real number, but I personally would not be the LEAST surprised to see it above the 66%/75% range easily.
Girls do use their kids as leverage. It fucking happens.
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Attention whore !
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Whine, whine, whine. No wonder he got downvotes, especially after the edit.
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If you'd like to have a legitimate conversation about my issues with the dude's post, both pre and post edit, feel free to try and start a conversation without being an asshole.
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Yep, of course.
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This is the type of stuff that belongs in the men's rights subreddit. I didn't downvote him, but the ENTIRE THREAD was nothing but a bunch of guys booing women because court decisions are 'skewed' in their favor. I haven't seen any actual statistical data, and pretty much everything there is just anecdotal evidence. 57 downvotes on this submission so far- those are not bots, those are men coming in here pissed and embittered with the rest of the female populace.
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Talk about a straw man...you're discrediting this person's entire comment because of their username?
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My point in making that comment was that nitesmoke has been throwing around accusations of "straw man" arguments when he's guilty of it himself. He didn't defend his position at all, but instead thought pointing out her username was sufficient.
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I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but an entire thread filled with people saying it does does not make it suddenly the majority. Why is reddit so hateful of anecdotal evidence in other places, but not for something like this? I asked for some statistical data of some sort that shows this.
And I probably should have added a sarcasm tag to that. It belongs in MR subreddit because this is exactly the type of stuff that goes there. A lot of the links posted are just like this, and a lot of the comments are mirrors of what was in this post. I'm not making any argument of any sort, I just asked for evidence.
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My point here was mainly that nitesmoke throws around accusations of people using "straw men" instead of actually backing up arguments. I was pointing out that he's guilty of the exact same thing. Instead of explaining why he disagrees, he just points out the persons username is evidence enough that they are wrong. In the end, he hasn't defended his position at all.
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My point here was mainly that nitesmoke throws around accusations of people using "straw men" instead of actually backing up arguments. I was pointing out that he's guilty of the exact same thing. Instead of explaining why he disagrees, he just points out the persons username is evidence enough that they are wrong. In the end, he hasn't defended his position at all.
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Okay. If you disagree, then actually make points that support what you're saying. I don't see the words that I put in your mouth, but then again you're pretty good at missing the point. You claim you want a rational discussion to explain downvotes but you're resorting to insults instead of rationality.
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Okay. If you disagree, then actually make points that support what you're saying. I don't see the words that I put in your mouth, but then again you're pretty good at missing the point. You claim you want a rational discussion to explain downvotes but you're resorting to insults instead of rationality.
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No, I'm sorry, I haven't. And judging me by my username is oh so mature of you, right? Either way, the edit to that comment was not even called for. Women aren't trying to hide anything, and so I don't see the reason why that was even added and hasn't been taken off yet. There is obvious bitter sentiment there directed at all women and not just one.
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Are you actually saying that you don't think the court system is skewed in favor of women? seriously? wow. you're just ignoring facts here.
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Care to present these "facts"? An entire thread containing anecdotes doesn't do it for me. Also, care to tell me exactly WHY it's skewed in favor of women? It didn't just come from nowhere. There has to be some history to this.
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What does my username have anything to do with what I was saying?
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Remember; reddit is male dominated, and because of this, it as a community is much less empathetic to woman then men. Guys are able to understand each other's points of view because many of them have been in that situation before.
For some of these guys, If a man says a shitty thing about a woman, they are obviously right because majority rules and women are all feminist whores who clearly want to make sure that everyone believes they are always victims....you know...because we are feminist whores...and that makes us insensitive to male issues.
So then you have this guy hive mind coming in and joining in despite the fact that they don't have any proof. They just feel like blaming us because they can.
Honestly. I never gave a crap about gender issues until I came to reddit. Now it seems like if you oppose someone who is unfairly accusing women of things (in this case, down voting his stupid thread) you get down voted into oblivion. I actually empathized with the guy in the article, and I strongly support fathers rights, but upon seeing the mass idiocy that followed, I couldn't help but down vote it. Im fucking sick of guys all over reddit blaming women/feminists for everything; even if it's as stupid and unprovable as who downvoted this assholes thread.
*Obviously, there are a million and one exceptions. Don't take what I say to mean that I think this way about every guy on reddit. I think most of them are really awesome.
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funny, what you describe is exactly what happens over at feministing. i wonder why...
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Im sure it does. Radical feminists and MRA's ruin things for everyone. For some reason though, they act like it's only the opposing party that does it.
Not only that, but those are also the people that lump everyone together. To a radical feminists, all MRAs are misogynist assholes. To a radical MRA, all feminists are man hating nazis.
Neither are true, but to idiots like the OP, it's UNDENIABLE FACT.
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I for one am pissed off and embittered with the female populace.
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Yes, the comments are indeed WTF-worthy. The point this submission was making was the edit the OP made- blaming women for his downvotes. Really? Was that called for? And yes, because usernames reflect SO much about a person, right?
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Do: Consider responding to opposing viewpoints with rational discussion or funny counterpoints instead of blind downvotes.
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Which is why this got 54 down votes and 19 upvotes? And they complain about a few bots voting it down, which happens to EVERY submission? Jesus Christ.
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A blind upvote for you sir.
Your viewpoint was that since you got 25 downvotes on your comment, it was women angry that their "secret" got out. You had no evidence that this was the case. Nicely done editing it so that you say "some of the ladies" instead of all ladies in general. This way your sexist comment looks slightly more reasonable and the women and men who were rightfully annoyed by your comment seem like they're overreacting.
Way to go solving our problems. So what the hell do you want him to do? Leave it as is so you can continue complaining freely, or delete it altogether (which is advocating censorship)? You aren't happy with his comment and you aren't happy with a more sensible version of it, just go get a cup of tea or something and take a look at the beautiful sky outside. This whole discussion is just fruitless.
Actually, the original issue never went away, which is that he doesn't have any evidence as to who actually downvoted him originally. Through all of his comments, he's trying to blame a conspiracy of women on suppressing his original (which now has over 900 upvotes anyway). I thought it was sneaky of him to change it subtly without pointing out that it was edited, though he pointed out every other edit he made.
I realize this discussion is fruitless, but I thought maybe if I discussed it rationally and wasn't insulting that the original poster would understand why there was controversy over his comment.
We see and get your point, what point youre not getting is out in reality, out here, yoo hoo, its understood and common sense tells us that the majority of the -25 if not all were from women. Maybe they werent "trying to cover up a dirty secret" and more just insulted that "women" were being characterized in a negative light.
Thats fine and dandy to pretend the -25 downvotes came from men, but the rest of us that live in reality know better, and your complaining is completely unjustified.
Hahaha you called him a sexist in post seeping with misandry.
Pot, meet kettle.
Arguing with one person in a post doesn't mean I endorse everything that's been said on here. If you actually have an example of me being sexist then please share.
I call it like I see it. People edit posts to clarify, correct and perfect a post. I see no problem with someone, after realizing that an implication they didn't intend to make was present, removed it. However, to you:
To you this apparently some sort of devious, planned attempt to further his evil sexist plan and garner further support from redditors to spread his malicious sexism, or something.
I call you sexist for jumping down his throat and screaming sexism like you're being paid, instead of using that brain in your head and rationally and skeptically asking yourself why he editted, and to what end.
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I didn't quote you as saying all ladies in general. Your original post said, "Looks like the ladies don't like it when the news gets out, huh?"
Where is your proof that the people who downvoted you in the first place were women and did it for the reasons you claimed?
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Your original edit said “Looks like the ladies don't like it when the news gets out, huh?”
Now I notice you’ve edited your edit to say “some of the ladies,” the fact of which makes me even less inclined to waste my time with you. Ladies aren’t your problem (I’m not one, btw)—it’s your douchebaggery.
edit: This reply quotes your original edit. Nice try.
Oh my word do you gals realize how ridiculous this argument is and that you've done nothing to discuss the actual issue at hand? This seems to make up the majority of issues on ladybashing, just a bunch of red herrings and strawmen to make a point that doesn't do anything to further gender equality.
I edit my comments ALL the time. I'll make a statement about a population, receive downvotes and then edit it because I can see how someone thought I meant EVERYONE in that population. You are insulting our intelligence by thinking we actually believe that EVERY SINGLE individual who ever lived is guilty of what we're describing.
I can't help but think that the OP just simply hated the original story and just found something to latch on to.
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