Total War Rome II utterly ruined by feminist agenda, is there a mod to fix?
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Posted Jan 23, 2019, 7:44 PM UTC
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If you had made any attempt to actually find a mod for this, you would really that one very easy search on the workshop will give you a solution. Just search for “No Female Generals”.
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I don't care about the female generals, i dont want game breaking "story missions" where i can make a woman the lead engineer of the fucking city, and if i dont it kills my characters son.
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“Game breaking” =/= very rare event that has no meaningful impact on your campaign. Unless you choose to have your heir killed, simply because you hate fictional video game women just that much. Seriously, get over it.
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So, instead of ranting, could you tell us instead which faction you were playing as?
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If it's Kush I'm going to laugh.
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You are sadly deprived of laughter, it's Rome apparently. Although I must admit I have never seen that event before.
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Rome.
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As far as I know, Rome doesn't allow women in positions of power, and I have certainly never heard of that event before. Is it added in by a mod or something?
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Powerful women having people assassinated because they don't get what they want happens in every era.
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Don't mind me asking, but, would it have been okay if the story mission had been identical but the character had been a male instead?
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I would suggest not refusing the kind woman's offer to be lead engineer and make the city work. After all, were the city's infrastructure not properly maintained, there could be a very unfortunate accident. She tried to warn you.
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The Roman Empire was famous for its patriarchal dominance. Only once in the entire history of the empire, was there an Empress, and it occurred in the 800s AD, what most historians would consider after the traditional Roman to medieval Byzantine transition.
I hear and understand you. I’ll I can say is that the aggressive & hostile nature here isn’t helping your view point, and you should take a chill pill.
There’s a more civilized and intelligent way of going about this, Chief. All you’re doing is giving people who agree with this viewpoint, a bad name.
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While no woman was emperor, there were still women who held positions of power.
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Well just to make the point, there actually was an empress. Empress Irene in the early 800s. She was the contemporary of Charlemagne.
They certainly did have influential roles, and many famous Roman figures were guided and directed by their wives. ie Belisarius & Justinian the Great. The Roman historians after their passing are often critical and claiming they were entirely controlled by their women. (Source: Procopius’s Secret History)
However with this said one cannot make the argument that the Romans did not discriminate against women. They most certainly DID. Legally Women could not vote, could not hold political office, and could not join the army. At the family level they were dominated by the patriarch of the family, who was always a male. A woman could not inherit or make a will of their own without their patriarchs permission.
To make the argument that Rome had egalitarian gender roles like we do today, is to ignore the injustice served to women in the past.
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They certainly didnt hold city planning positions, that was the job of the Aediles and Praetors.
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^ I don’t even understand why there is an attempt at revision in the first place. In a way it’s dishonoring the women who lived through that.
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And a lot of emperors and heads of households had their heirs meet tragically early ends because of it.
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There’s a more civilized and intelligent way of going about this, Chief
Maybe, but i kind of feel violated, i bought the game at full price and it barely worked, they finally got the game playable 2 years ago, and now i go start a new campaign and it is chuck full of feminist drivel that looks like they hired a gender studies major to oversee remaking the game. Game companies that pull this years after purchase should offer refunds, no where did i agree to forced updates that cannot be rolled back on steam.
There is also an intelligent and civilized way to show that women had roles in the Roman Empire, like Livia Drusilla, or having the spies and political dignitaries be female. You dont have to fake an entire period to make people feel better.
They had a great opportunity with TW Warhammer to make factions 50% female and no one would care because it is fantasy. As someone that played all of the total war games and adored them because of their historical accuracy, or at least attempt to do so, it's annoying to see the entire genre go to shit because some angry lesbian became a diversity hire.
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Maybe, but i kind of feel violated
Dude, what?
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Wait until he finds out he was born via a woman's vagina. You want to tell him or should I?
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By all means, go ahead.
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Well, lets say you buy a car because it has certain features, and the car company comes back 5 years later, takes out the back seats, puts a new engine in, and paints it pink without asking.
That's not what i fucking paid for.
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I'd be fucking thrilled about a free new engine
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There is also an intelligent and civilized way to show that women had roles in the Roman Empire, like Livia Drusilla, or having the spies and political dignitaries be female.
That's basically how it works in Ancestral Update for Rome (also Carthage, and almost the entire Hellenic and Eastern worlds.) Female characters are not able to be Generals or Admirals, but focus on familial and behind the scenes political responsibilities. They even have their own promotion/career path that represents precisely this.
All the Best, Welsh Dragon.
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Oh boy Oh boy what a delightful package of shit we have here.
To open or not To open.........
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Was hoping it was some kind of trolling, with some fun turn around at the end, but it's just a lot of crap.
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F*** off little snowflake and please never buy these games again. Thank you.
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Using buzzwords to insult people only makes yourself look stupid
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Which faction are you encountering this? I've been playing DEI exclusively and haven't encountered anything like this so far, so not sure if that mod blocked it out or if it's tied to the latest DLC(which I don't have)
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I play exclusively vanilla and haven't seen it either. The events I've seen are usually along the lines of "hire this extremely talented person who happens to be a woman, or get some increased loyalty from the traditionalists."
All the Best, Welsh Dragon.
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and suddenly im forced to allow some noble woman to be on the City Planning
lol
Though, you might want to try DeI, since that one is the one I'm playing and I don't have problems with having.. too many females in there. Though that's not necessarily a problem for me to begin with. See for yourself if you prefer it. It changes a lot of the game though, and makes it harder/slower as well. Be warned.
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There is a mod called "No Female Generals" that does as you have requested.
To be honest, I'm not sure why people make an issue out of a non issue. That's just my take on it.
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So without asking us the ancestral update turned the entire franchise into an unplayable feminist circle jerk.
It didn't. There's no ideological agenda or political statement here, except the one you appear to be making with your colourful (and anatomically dubious) metaphors.
Also female leaders have been in game since Patch 19 (Ancestral Update was Patch 20,) and a female leader has been in since Patch 18, in the form of Queen Zenobia in Empire Divided. Female agents have been in game since launch.
Playing a Rome 2 grand campaign and suddenly im forced to allow some noble woman to be on the City Planning committee, if i dont accept and send her to the temple to weave where she belongs the game kills my faction heir.
Would you happen to have a screenshot or screenshots which show this? And did the game expressly state appoint this noble woman or your faction heir dies? Because to my knowledge there is no event which gives you the choice of either spawning a new female character or killing an existing character. The events which spawn a new female character usually have an alternative option which is also a positive, such as increased loyalty from other parties, allowing you to choose which positive you prefer or find most useful to the current situation.
Or are you making an assumption that because you had this event, and then your faction heir died, therefore the two are connected? If so, they are likely not connected.
(Also personally, if I was offered the services of someone who was skilled in City Planning, male or female, I'd say that being on the City Planning Committee is exactly where they belong. Leaving them to weave in the temple would be a waste of their talents... But that's just me.)
Also, about 90% of the kingdoms have female heads of state. The game actively punishes you for not being a feminist historical revisionist.
Again, would you happen to have screenshots showing this? Because to my knowledge those figures aren't actually possible. The only factions in Grand Campaign that can have female generals and thus heads of state are the Barbarians, Egypt and some of the Desert Kingdoms. Even in the factions that can have them, outside of the starting characters the probabilities are heavily weighted towards male characters except for the Kush. So unless Rome, Carthage, and almost the entire Hellenic and Eastern world have been wiped out, you aren't going to see that many female heads of state barring a really freaky chain of events that's likelihood is as close to zero as to really make no difference.
I would rather have the game at release than this garbage.
To each their own. Personally I prefer it now.
Are there any mods that remove this crappy update? Or should i just never buy a total war again? Why isnt there an option to downgrade versions?
There is an option to rollback the game to any patch from Patch 16 onwards, through the Steam Betas Tab. There are also mods. You would likely have been able to discover one or both of these in the time it took to create this thread, if you had been of a mind to.
Hope that helps.
All the Best, Welsh Dragon.
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can't tell if sarcasm...
I think this is a lazy attempt at trolling.
I'm not trolling, they ruined the game with their political bullshit. If it was released like this no one would have bought it, there should be an option for political quacks that need their egos stroked constantly about their regressive agenda. Does everything have to be a politically motivated POS now a days?
Though i am wondering why there are no female trans soldiers in the ranks and why all the romans are white if this is really the route they want to go they are showing that they are rather racist, it should at least be 50% black troops, an at least a third should be females, and 10% of the legionaries should be in wheel chairs so that it's more inclusive.
Proceeds to continually beat the dead horse that is the "transgender black nazi" type jokes.