I can relate so much to Elliot Rodger that I feel like he is a caricature of me.
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Posted Jan 31, 2019, 3:33 PM UTC
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Go check out MumkeyJones.tv and watch his breakdowns of the manifesto. Elliott Rodger seems pretty sympathetic until you actually read his thoughts in the manifesto. Anyone can empathise with his problems but sympathising with his actions is something else entirely.
If you really feel like ER is a part of you or very much like you other than also being an incel seek help from a psychologist, the guy was not just lonely or depressed he was a mentally deranged, narcissistic, racist, misanthrope with a dash of god complex to tip him into that "insane enough to kill everyone with him" box.
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lliott Rodger seems pretty sympathetic until you actually read his thoughts in the manifesto. Anyone can empathise with his problems but sympathising with his actions is something else entirely.
I have read his manifesto and listened to the audiobook multiple times. I only really stop seeing the similarities when he starts planning his day of retribution. Even then I am not 100% sure the thoughts in his manifesto were how he felt all the time as I assume he only wrote his thoughts in his manifesto when he was angry.
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Even all the dumb shit about him trying the lottery? His constant bouts of racist rhetoric? His so called "plans" to "give girls a chance" by standing around at a party not talking to anyone. The manifesto is definitely a very negative (angry) perspective on him but if you read the emails from his family and find all the stuff that wasn't in that manifesto, it's still pretty clear how insane he was, the bottomless narcicism, the lack of understanding of anything not directly about him (possibly due to his autism and his horrible parents but still partly on him).
Either way I still highly recommend those Mumkey videos, he has spent some serious time researching everything you can know about the guy, way more than you or I probably have. If you want a full ER course then those are some definitive guides.
I've felt some of the things he has, the social isolation and we both have grown up with a form of autism, he loses me the moment he forgets to look at himself though. He was so caught up in hating the world for ostracising the perfect supreme gentleman that not once did he think about the way he was acting. He didn't understand socialising and made no attempts to learn, his parents should have taught him but he never listened to them anyway.
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He had no friends, wtf do you expect? A social savant?
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No I expected him to try and learn like most people who function with ASD do. It takes years longer for people with ASD to be able to talk to people normally, because they have to learn how whereas to most people it's fairly natural. I don't have it down yet either hence I'm an Incel, but you see that's MY problem. It's not "the twisted world's" fault, I have an issue and it is going to take time and effort for me to solve it. ER was the same except he was so narcissistic, nothing could ever be his fault.
ER wasn't willing to let anything be his fault, he was 100% sure that every ill he had was the fault of the world as a whole, not because he had social development issues, a god complex and a burning hatred for people as a whole. His parents are definitely at fault for not helping him through any of this, but they are all still his problems not the worlds.
Nobody owes him shit, but he just couldn't accept that.
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He’s basically me.
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I don't know about that, to be honest. It takes a lot for a man to be willing to kill. (Or maybe it doesn't ... when you think about how many people join the military, etc... who knows.)
There's far better incel role models out there. Most of them are anonymous, sadly.. ... which really makes you think: Is there any successful celebrity out there who is incel?
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But I think in many ways the existence of ER basically blows the blackpill out of the water. He was above average in looks, rich and Caucasian, but he couldn't get laid because of his HORRIFIC PERSONALITY. He was a clear sociopath (dark triad personality traits hello?) and a violent murder (I thought women were natural attracted to violent men?). Feel free to refute me, I'm curious to see how ER's experience is rationalized in line with the blackpill.
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. He was a clear sociopath (dark triad personality traits hello?) and a violent murder (I thought women were natural attracted to violent men?).
He was extremely shy, so the "sociopath" side didn't come out and people weren't aware of it. If he lived he'd have tonnes of women writing love letters to him right now.
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He was shy - this still points to personality being the issue though.
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Yup, if he displayed his dark triad women would be all over him.
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Men with truly bad personalities and truly good looks are able to get their foot in the door and initiate relationships, but their bad personalities cause them unable to sustain relationships.
I agree that Elliot didn't have inferior face, but the fact is that he was an autist that didn't appear to have interacted with women ever, so there's nothing in his story that suggests one thing or another about the sexual marketplace.
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I can't relate to ER at all.
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