SftwEngr•

I figured that the headlines would get more extreme but wasn't expecting this! So this is how they are going to explain the cooling period after the MWP? I often see these headlines and wonder, "Well this is so clearly insane no American would ever believe it!" but then see comments below agreeing with it :^(

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I assume they are trying to leverage guilt to promote AGW now so I expect to see headlines claiming that US slavery was a significant contributor to climate change.

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pr-mth-s•

that brings me back. The best-selling US history book ever? 1980 Howards Zinn's 'people's history'. Sold a MILLION copies. used as a school textbook. Written by a Marxist who despised Americans ... probably influenced these idiots.

entertainingly ripped a new one.

ADDED: the book was written 40 years ago, the uninhibited comments from both sides mostly are from about 20 years ago. IMO The left is never going to stop, proof being that since then piling on race, sexuality and climate to get their way, all based on their self-loathing, not on objective reality.

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Joco151515•

Reddit’s favorite book

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looncraz•

If, by "genocide," they mean accidentally infecting a population with disease, then they may have a case to make.

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SftwEngr•

I'd read that smallpox was deliberately used against the native populations, but can't confirm or deny that it ever happened. It would seem a silly way to kill off a population since it's a potentially fatal infectious disease the colonists could have caught as well.

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looncraz•

That is an old military tactic - lay siege on a fort and then toss in infected corpses, blankets, animals, etc...

It's always important to remember that things never start out that way - colonists originally got along rather well with the natives since they mostly encountered the "civilized tribes." My family history - I descend from native traders as well as from the Mayflower - has stories from both sides of the growing divide and distrust that developed as illness spread in the tribes.

Understandably, some natives believed they were being punished for welcoming Europeans while many did not. Natives also didn't understand the concept of large farms, land ownership, legal treaties, and more in the same way the Europeans saw it.

By the time this grew into even semi-organized violence, the native population had already been cut in half by disease. From that point, the colonists were mostly defending themselves and grew to distrust the natives as brutal and untrustworthy. It took over almost two centuries for it to grow into a concerted effort to kill the natives off and displace them - it was it this point (early to mid 18th century) that you started to see true genocidal efforts. At that point, the native populations had already been decimated by disease.

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SftwEngr•

Interesting. Now it seems they are being used to blame post-MWP global cooling on and masking the global warming we should have experienced, had they not all of sudden died en masse leaving their crops to rot, leading to more deadly CO2 emissions cooling the atmosphere. Is it safe to assume Santa Claus won't be blamed at some point soon?

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looncraz•

They tried to blame Santa Claus, but he keeps moving and they can't quite nail him down.

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NewyBluey•

How about "Anthropogenic global cooling prior to the industrial revolution"

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barttali•

The Little Ice Age started before any major European colonization. The Vikings left Greenland in the 15th century because of the climate getting too cold. 1430 is the most recent carbon dating they have for Norse settlements, which is well before Columbus arrived.

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