I keep thinking, damn these people are so lucky for as risky as they live. I haven't heard any horror stories of a mom dieing in birth surprisingly, and I haven't heard of a husband dieing leaving a homeless mom of 10+ What do you think, or do you know, happens to a family that lost the man of the house? Are widows allowed to re-marry?
Posted Feb 19, 2019, 12:42 PM UTC
The Duggars have hung out (on air, at least) with Debbie Query, who is a widow. She has 4 children and her husband died when the oldest was about 12 and the youngest was 2, according to her fudie Wiki entry. Says she is/was a midwife, so I'm assuming that's how she was able to afford the kids without remarrying. I'd think her midwifery training was what probably gave her an option to remarry, rather than being forced to simply out of financial obligations. My guess would be that, as a widow with children, your options for remarrying would be widowers with children or older bachelors (i.e. the older Arndt boys).
Thanks for sharing! It would be smart on all the girls to have some minor training in something for this reason. I bet that mom is avoiding remarrying until she is sure she can't have more kids lol. At least in that setting she is surrounded by work!
This is what mormons do. Women should theoretically have an education/profession they can fall back on should something happen to their husband. Some stricter sects of mormonism also prohibit Mormon widows from remarrying.
Kelton Balka's (married to Josie Bates) mother died in childbirth. Kelton and his siblings have been raised by a single dad since 2009. Also wasn't there an episode of 19KAC when JB took his daughters to a father-daughter camp? I think they let a family friend tag along who's father had recently died, so JB was trying to help out as a father figure to her. I remember seeing the episode but I don't remember the name of it.
They would go back to live with JB with their kids and be married off again.
Even if Josh didn’t die, I’d assume that it’s like what happened to Anna after Josh didn’t have his job anymore and went to rehab.
Anna had no $ to her name and Josh was the only breadwinner (reason #1000 why relying on one person to take care of you and your kids/house/bills is stupid to me) so when his life fell apart, she moved in with JB and MEchelle. She probably didn’t move back in with her parents because in this cult, once you marry, you’re considered “property” of the husband and therefore his family.
I’d assume that that’s what would happen if a husband passed. The wife would move back home with her kids.
Logistically, it was easier for her to move into the compound because it’s huge and local. Boob also wanted to keep her close and brainwashed so she wouldn’t get any ideas about divorcing the pig (even though adultery is the only acceptable reason for her to do so).
I don’t think it was ever a question of where Anna would go when he was shipped off to “rehab.” But you’re right, the final decision would be made according to the cult rules: she’s the property of her husband and his family because Daddy Keller gave her away.
so the hale family is a crazy example but the father went to jail and a whole other family adopted them including the mother seemingly and the older ones of both families got married.
Thank you for this! I'm loving reading about these. lol
I do not know if Duggars have some "own rules".
In general in such cults and strong religious people, I think the widows are allowed to re-marry, since they promise "til death as part". Moreover, they urgently need someone to take care of them. Until that, there would be a strong support from the community - like bringing food, and cooked meals taking care of children, maybe also some monetary help - to pay for bills, or move to church houses and not need to pay for the rent (like Duggars did).
I just don't get how this will play out as they keep multiplying in such huge numbers. What happens when it's 4 family's of 15 that need the church house? One day it will get to be to much. They'ed have to be pretty lucky to find a man that wants to be with someone who might have 8 kids (in their circle i'm assuming) or find one who is widowed with 8 himself.
I think the communities are local and each of them have church and some house and I do not think that it happens so often. Maybe in the global community yes, but for the local smaller ones I do not think so.
And about re-marrying... the community leaders would match them with the "appropriate" person - like an old bachelor, or widowed man regardless of the fact if they really want to be together.
Or the woman can work in a church, be a midwife or can become tutor for homeschooling for others in the community.
I think they will just find the way to support so that the family can survive. And the kids would need to marry as soon as they can to start their own family.
You just made me think, they'ed probably push to marry kids off before their even really ready in cases like those. Perhaps even to people they are really against marrying. Like someone could take advantage in a situation like that.
Yeah, I think so :(
I think Jim bob would assume the father figure role of their children. Remember in an ep of 18 kids and counting Jim Bob took a trip to austin’s family’s camp with the girls and they brought along two friends whose fathers had passed? The girls were interviewed saying something like Jim bob is a great influence since my father passed. I think they focus on that for kids who have lost fathers
https://iblp.org/questions/if-im-widow-or-divorced-who-my-authority-figure
Straight from the cult's mouth. Basically God and your father are all you have if your husband dies.
So if you are divorced woman, IBLP says you should still consider your ex an authority figure. Gross.
Sounds like how Jesus was made.
So the only way to don't have headships and live on your own 'accountability' is to be a widow? I feel this could fuel some investigation Discovery documentaries...
Also, are they allowed to Remarry?
Dieing?
I'm sorry, please forgive me?
It’s “dying”. Unless you’re talking about coloring hair, then it’s “dyeing”. English is weird.
They become Jim Bob's property?
Ugh. What if jbob dies? I guess all the sons and husbands have to step in?
Oldest son probably steps in. In Josh's case, the duty might be abdicated to JD.