TW: Still not losing weight?

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hey all. so i’ve been off of abilify since august of last year. i’ve slowly been increasing my latuda. i was told this was weight neutral and should help shed some pounds. 40lbs are still here.

i haven’t lost ANYTHING. admittedly, i need to work out more, but i really don’t eat unhealthy and eat under a certain amount of cals, not enough to maintain this weight.

i’ve resorted to restricting (bulimia w anorexic tendencies diagnosis) and have been ruminating on purging. i need to get blood tests done for other things, so i’m wondering if this could possibly be something w my thyroid? im also having extreme, extreme fatigue and spells of vertigo.

all in all, what are some things i can do? it’s really affecting how i see food again and i don’t want to purge.

Posted Feb 21, 2019, 7:20 PM UTC

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nodfvther•

definitely get blood tests and in the mean time if you end up purging again make sure you have some gatorade or pedialyte so you can replenish electrolytes and rehydrate yourself. ED mindset is dangerous I know but depending on your calorie intake I would consider high restriction (to avoid binges) along with light exercise

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versperalaxisOP•

i appreciate it. i’m just so confused. i’ve had eating issues since i was young, but on spells of eating normal, i ate what i’m eating now and maintained a smaller weight. mostly greens, a little bit of carbs, etc all under my cal count. idk it’s just so frustrating :/ thanks again.

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reddeathmasque•

I got diabetes because of the weight gain and got metformin for it, lost most of the weight in the next six months. I've learned since that metformin is actually used for this purpose with atypical antipsychotics. Now I learned about another one too in a different thread, called topamax. So there's options and I recommend them as a better solution.

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versperalaxisOP•

i can’t take topamax bc it makes me more depressed :/ but i’ll look into other things. i’m so worried now that my doctor told me about the diabetes. also, my psych apparently doesn’t know latuda isn’t weight neutral lmao

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reddeathmasque•

Metformin is usually pretty well tolerated. I hope you find help.

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versperalaxisOP•

i appreciate it!

edit: deleted repeat haha

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miasume•

I gained 40lbs when I went on Latuda. I still haven’t managed to lose it. I wish I had advice but it’s interesting they told you the opposite of what I was told/experienced.

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versperalaxisOP•

exactly, i’m just so confused

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TheSpookyKabooki•

I was on Latuda for over a year. I started at 120lbs when I began taking the medication, and my psychiatrist played with the dosages every couple of months. I started on 40mg, then he dropped me to 20mg after three months. Two months later, I was on 60mg and two months after that, I was on 80mg.

Now. I saw my psychiatrist every month to report in, and every time I went to my appointment, the nurse checked my vitals (weight, blood pressure, temperature, etc.). Every time I showed up, I had gained more and more weight. I gained 70+lbs in about four months on this medication. It forced me to change my healthy eating habits (though I won't blame that all on the medication; it was also my weakened will powered self).

With the lower doses of Latuda, I was told I needed to eat meals of at least 350 calories when I took it each night. With the higher doses, I had to eat even more to avoid getting violently ill when I took my pill. I wound up turning to tons of junk food/empty carbs to try to keep the nausea down.

I've been off Latuda for over a year now, and I am still trying to shed all the weight I gained while on it. I don't know if this is typical for most people on this pill, but my doctor told me that I may see a small increase in weight. And when I told him I thought I was gaining far too much and had concerns about the eating habits changing to avoid being ill, I was told this was normal.

So I don't know. But this has been my experience with this drug. I quit it because it wasn't helping me, it gave me nasty tremors, had my jaw locking up, and I was afraid of the possibility of developing diabetes that comes with long term usage of Latuda.

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versperalaxisOP•

oh god my gp just told me today it can cause diabetes. i was like FFS I CANT WIN LMAO i’m sorry to hear that, though :/

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TheSpookyKabooki•

Yeah. I wasn't told about that particular side effect. I only found out when I realized I was having these weird tremors in my hands that I had never had before and it was becoming harder to open my mouth. So I looked up the possible side effects of Latuda and thought, "No, thank you."

It helped that I was angry about all the weight I had gained and that the pill wasn't actually helping me (and my doctor wouldn't take me off it despite my repeated insistence that it was doing me no good and, in fact, only making me ill).

But. If the weight concerns you, it may be a good idea to start keeping a food diary? Track what you eat and how much, and it can help you establish better portion control and curb impulse/depression/boredom eating. I think seeing it all written down is healthy and helps avoid the "I ate too much, time to purge or deprive myself/I didn't eat enough, I need to eat everything I see" mindsets.

Having your daily intake written down in front of you can help put you on the track to making better, healthier choices for yourself. It's similar to balancing/creating a budget.

For someone diagnosed with an ED, you may want to have someone you trust in on your food diary with you. Someone who can help keep you accountable, at least until you can rely on yourself to be accountable for your eating choices. That way, they can help you and keep you from going too far to one side (starvation) or the other (bingeing).

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versperalaxisOP•

i’m really considering being taken off it bc i agree, it’s not really helping anyway.

yeah i may have to do that. i’ve been keeping one but i’m slightly decreasing every day :/

i appreciate your help and knowledge!

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brookelilac•

That sounds horrible. You must be going through a lot with eating disorders on top of bipolar.

Last year I went on the Low Carb Healthy Fat diet (like keto but allows for more carbs). I put on a bunch of weight on lithium and in the past year on this diet I’ve lost 11kg (over 20lbs). Also, keto was created for epilepsy treatment. Apparently epilepsy and bipolar have some similar characteristics (high sodium on the brain and some other stuff?), so it.’s worry trying. I think there’s been some studies about keto / low carb and bipolar - but not 100% sure.

Keto and Lchf are quite restrictive - so I make up my own rules and don’t follow it for every single meal. For example, I don’t eat grains or refined sugar unless I’m counting it as a ‘cheat’ meal, but I make exceptions for dates. Dates are soooo sugary, but they’re natural and small so I make an exception. In ‘what the fat’, the authors recommend sticking to the diet for all but 3 meals a week. I think this is pretty fair.

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versperalaxisOP•

i’ll have to look into it! i’m vegetarian so keto might not be my thing.

it’s okay, it is what it is, yaknow? but thanks for your help!

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