And we wonder why we get so many games with assholes
Posted Feb 28, 2019, 4:54 AM UTC
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That's some toxic sh*t
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Happy to see he is in a professional team he deserves.
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just go to LOL if you want to forfeit fucking EE. and he doesn't even communicate to his team what need to be done to win early and doesnt even have healing item early but only communicate to tell other people to end when jahrakal still in the game, what an ass. hope you got banned for life in dota.
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I'm not defending Envy here, but I won't pretend to know a winnable game from an unwinnable game. When you're behind with an undying it's already a mega bad sign. And if he afk in base, the enemy won't push.
But in lower MMR games, ANY game is always winnable. So this display is very very bad for impressionable lower MMR kids that just blindly give up for no reason. He HAD a very understandable reason this game, but it's not easy for the likes of your average twitch chat to understand that.
Framing the debate in terms of winnability is where the whole trouble begins. There are plenty of physical sports where you can fall so behind that winning is practically impossible. Say a football game where you are 6-0 behind and you haven't gotten the ball in the other team's half for fifteen minutes. It happens even at the professional level. Do players walk off the field before the final whistle? No. Because it is recognized that you keep trying or pretending to try till the very end. You don't have to give it your all, but you have to do enough.
Sportpersons are respected, honored and celebrated precisely because they compete with honor and respect. They usually display qualities usually called sportsmanship. And if they don't, they should be shamed and villified and punished for bringing disrepute to the game and disrespecting the fans.
If Dota is to become even more mainstream than it is now, the players have to be held to very high standards both in pro matches and in pubs.
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Do players stream their daily 7-8 pick-up games? Don't overthink it to the point of making awful analogies, man.
It's bad mostly because there will be people who follow the habit. Let's leave the "why" out of it, because I've already discussed that, and most lower MMR followers won't really care to even discuss the "why" of it (which is the main problem of itself, but you can't just have everyone instantly become Immortal players).
The pickup games dont end just because youre down a lot tho
I played competitive amateur football for 5 years. Played maybe 80 competitive games every year and another 150-200 pickup games. I don't recall a single instance of anyone walking off the field just because they were losing.
True ! That he may have understood its unwinnable but no need to decide for rest of his team. He didnt even communicate to his team he prefers enemy ending game. This is just EE thinking he is some OP anime char.
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but they have 2 heavy carry (jahrakal and PA which of course is bullyable in early game) so they can still win in late game. but the lack of control does concerning.
He's a level 6 pa, they are pushing high ground on min 16, that game is by no means winnable in that bracket.
and thats because he doesn't buy healing item and getting harassed hard by aggressive trilane. the jahrakal and necro seems still good in the game, enemy has mid rubick, 3 squishy hero that can be depushed until around minute 40. oh yeah thats unwinnable because if enemy using deathball-strat and the stats shows that and its uncounterable by picking 2 very late game hero, but then how come TI 4 winner is newbee and ti 8 winner is OG?
Apparently you know better how to lane than EE. Good for you, can't wait to see how you place on the minor, majors and TI. Also you can read better when a game is over, than EE. You got some amazing skills there, you should really go pro show them.