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ConservativeCuuck

[LOL] POE, Bio, and Darshan don't deserve this

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These players are consistently holding up this sinking ship called CLG. They deserve to have star players play next to them, not challenger / masters players that hardly hold their own in Academy. I'm flaming so hard right now because I'm tired of it. I'm tired of seeing these players not have the teammates they deserve.

Stop putting Biofrost on peel champs and start putting him on engagers / let junglers peel. If you are so worried about your adc getting caught then maybe he doesn't deserve to be in the LCS. Bio is the shot caller, I have faith in him to engage the fights instead of rookie junglers.

Posted Mar 10, 2019, 11:48 PM UTC

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HeliotexZionSpartan•

Story of CLG since Summer '16. Always 2 or 3 guys carrying the team while the players take turns on who ints next. Seems like the bot lane decided to be the ones this split.

Still the actual true roster is 5-5. Why replace two guys now especially the jungler? And what's the point of replacing the AD when it's just Ezreal and Ashe that are going to be played anyway?

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Exactly. Auto is not an LCS level adc, moon was never a good jungler. Stixxay is basically a veteran at this point (he should be expected to bounce back after one bad week) Wiggly has shown he can have map pressure and be where he needs to be. I'm so pissed at this org. Complete mismanagement.

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clghuhihehe XD•

It is a little strange that our wildcard was taken away from us. Stixxay performed poorly last week, so CLG fans knew that he would make a counter-logic move and 1v9 the very next week.

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SlicerX321CLG•

Stixxay should've been there but decided to 420 his way to the bench

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Stixxay wasn't even doing bad until he started to run it down bot

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MarstonX•

The dude doesn't practice outside of scrims. Go look at his accounts. He does not grind nearly as much as he should, especially since he's not that good anymore.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

His mechanics have definitely been struggling to say the least and it is true that he has had a history of not practicing as much. Though it could be likely that he has other accounts

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rudebrookePowerOfEvil•

To be fair he only inted the one game.

The rest of the split he's been average for his standards.

I hope Weldon stops trying to play with the roster because they have only gone backwards this week.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

There was another game he did really poor in but yeah, he was fine for most of the split. I think CLG management just destroyed the season.

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rudebrookePowerOfEvil•

Yep I agree.

Our main roster was 5-5 up until this week and three of those losses were vs TL, C9 and TSM. Probably would have been 8-5 if they were able to play vs Optic week 1 and the two games this week.

That's exactly where this roster should be, middle of the pack pushing potential top 4/5.

Instead we get to miss playoffs again because u/mindgamesweldon is too stubborn to realise the plan he had at the beginning of the season of utilising a 10 man roster is fucking stupid.

If he can't work out why CLG isn't improving fast enough maybe he should bench himself for a few games instead of blowing up any exisiting synergy/confidence the team still had after last week.

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NewCLGFanboy•

I called that him smoking weed would ruin his career and this sub didn't believe me.

https://old.reddit.com/r/CLG/comments/au3fd5/lolspoilers_counter_logic_gaming_vs_tsm_lcs_2019/eh5eyz8/?context=3

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Jibbjabb43•

Tried to call something 14 days ago.

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deediazhPowerOfEvil•

To be fair Darshan deserves some of the blame, in all of his aatrox games. And the last two games Bio has played bad in lane.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

The plan was to camp top but in both games bot lane failed

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deediazhPowerOfEvil•

You can not lose the lane without getting camped.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

He was 10 CS down in a losing match up that's not losing Lane

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lurkerASCII•

One of the companies a friend worked for had a strategy to get rid of or to pay people less money.

They first take the employee and put him in a bad scenario or situation where he isn't comfortable. Then, when the employee inevitably performs poorly, they use it as leverage to low ball the next contract. The employee can then choose to leave or he accepts a lower offer, either way, the company is spending less.

Darshan has had some good and bad moments this split much like PoE. But surely there has to be some reason why they never ever play towards topside and consistently leave them out to dry.

Our botlane, specifically stixxay has been such a crutch for this team. I'm just hoping we spend properly to get a good ADC for summer split.

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bkaiser•

defiantly. He got destroyed 1v1. He was confident in the matchup or he wouldn't have locked. Those that think is all the coaches choice on who he plays is delusional. He does have the power have the final say.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

He basically won lane going down a wave and a half versus a tough matchup

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bkaiser•

Huni pushed him to his own Nexus towers strictly 1v1 that is not winning lane no matter what the matuchp. Nobody would would say he basically won lane that game unless their bedroom is plastered with cutouts out darshans picture like yours is. Darshan felt confident enough to lock it in yet blew on aatrox as he always has. Actual top tier player such as summday plays losing matchups as well but don't need hard camps to hold their lane.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Yeah he got pushed in and they weren't able to punish the rumble because bot Lane

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UnrealPixels•

POE Darshan and Bio all play like garbage too. What's the point of even getting into playoffs at 6th, we won't have a chance at winning anyway. I'd rather they try our academy players and see if we can use any of them for next split.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

They're trying to keep up the game with failing teammates, of course they're going to look bad. The reason we even have 5 wins is because of Darshan, POE and Bio. Don't disrespect.

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UnrealPixels•

Bio is constantly out of position, looked terrible on any support other then tahm kench and has abysmal vision control. Darshan has looked like a below average toplaner everygame expect the jax one. POE is alright but not good enough to warrant the gigantic salary he is presumably being payed. If we want to have a good roster coming into summer we need to either have a bigger budget or get rid of him.

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HeliotexZionSpartan•

How tf has Darshan been a "below average toplaner"?

Akali? Won lane, lost game because team didn't provide any vision for him to splitpush. Sion and Urgot? Major reason why CLG won those games. J4? CS lead over BB's Jayce, but lost because Stixxay threw the game.

I'm not denying his Aatrox games were underwhelming, but he was also in shitty match-ups.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

He's trying to do more than is typically required of him because that is what's required of him in these bot lanes.

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Viggen1PowerOfEvil•

Mate, Bio hasn't been looking good lately, yesterday he inted at lvl 2 dying and burning flash while overextending into thresh draven, today he got caught several times.

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Ultramode•

Imagine if in NBA every team just said "there is no point, warriors will win the whole thing anyways", and just didnt do anything. Honestly the biggest reason to make playoffs is to motivate players to play better in summer and the points we get can potentially help us get into gauntlet even if we don't do good next split.

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adityawizkidDARSHAAN?•

This. If our org is so fucking broke we should just sell our spot and let an org with actual competence and $$$ join the league. At least that way Darshan can go out in glory, Bio can get a competent ADC, and POE doesn't have to be the sole damage source every game

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Cool_Kid_John_Browndarshan????•

Weldon's Mind Games are bronze elo. Truly counter logic.

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TheOcticimator•

Darshan is the captain of the sinking ship steering it into an iceberg are you crazy?

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Darshan is the best top laner in NA and it's not even close. You have no idea wtf you're talking about.

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bkaiser•

Your absolute raging boner for Darshan is so funny. You and maybe Darshan's mom are the only two people that feel he is the best top laner in the league. If anything it just negates any of your opinions because you are a delusional person. Darshan is not the reason this team is losing however hes is far from top 1-3 in the lcs.

Please post that Darshan is the best top laner in the league in the main league sub of unbias people and report back lol.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Lol? You think I don't post that in the main sub? I could care less what you idiots think to be honest you have no idea how this game is played

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TheOcticimator•

Then put him on champs that let him show it like the jax game, because he's definitely not the best when playing tanks and aatrox.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

He clearly is the best when he's playing tanks lmao wtf?

Yeah his aat games haven't looked great but his entire team loses before he can group

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whobettaCLG Spinner•

bio no bueno this year. zero impact and no lane presence or big plays...

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Yeah that's because he has to play Kench every game because his Adcs can't lane or teamfight

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confirmSuspicions•

His kench is awful though.

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kxxzyWeldon•

His Kench was great at the start of the split. Does seem to lack pressure the last couple of times though.

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deediazhPowerOfEvil•

He has really good positioning to protect people, but i dont see him using his ult to catch isolated enemies.. ever. I feel like we are used to the NA caliber supports but once you see players like CoreJJ you understand how much more a support could do for the team.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Well he's probably relegated on it because of his ads

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ConnoireCLG•

To be fair, auto’s death in lane happened because bio got caught twice bot. First time auto had to blow his heal and the second time he just got fucked trying to save bio and died instead.

I did notice at least twice though when bio was dying auto would ult when the rest of the team had no chance to put damage on to the stunned person.

The real problem today was the draft. If we can get a good draft with two winning lanes to at least give us a chance to do something early game I feel like we’d have better performances.

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confirmSuspicions•

Yeah that late flash on tahm was like "cya later auto."

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FathomDOT•

? Darshan picked Aatrox into rumble.

Darshan is 0-9-1 on his last 3 Aatrox games.

He’s had good games:

Against v1per on riven, because santorin never wanted to come top once and wiggily helped Darshan get an early lead.

On sion.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

And yet darshan barely fell behind CS versus Rumble. It wasn't his fault stop trying to make it look like it was

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deediazhPowerOfEvil•

Dude Rumble was lvl 15 when Darshan was lvl 13 and Darshan never left the lane, that is not barely behind.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Yeah because he got doved in a losing match up or did you forget that

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deediazhPowerOfEvil•

The first time the jungler went to top lane he was 20 cs down and immediately tp'd back to lane after being dove. He kept losing exp and CS by getting fukd trying to trade blows with Rumble and having to back off to the point he was almost 60cs down. During all this he never left the lane to help somewhere else were Rumble constantly roamed mid. You can blame the botlane all you want, but Darshan played bad too. He also decided to leave the teamfight with his ult up twice without getting the passive to heal him, then died to rumble lyandris tick damage.

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ep1939•

wtf Darshan's been one of the worst toplaners in NA consistently for 5 splits and CLG fandom keeps riding his dick because "he's so motivated".

He's fuckin 0-9-1 on Aatrox in 3 games and still picks that shit and builds absolutely random.

Even tho this isn't his worst split so far, he's had much more painful ones, he's arguably one of the worst toplaners in NA.

Safe for that summer 2017 period with Dardoch where he looked good he's been so inconsistent and weak that I want to cry.

He still has some good moments, but too sparse and rare to really say "they don't deserve this".

You know what Darshan's teammates don't deserve?

A toplaner that gets first blood half of the games (like he did with Reignover) and still loses lane every single game.

Give me a break on this Darshan narrative ffs, open oracleselixir and cringe on his god awful stats.

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Also what the fuk are you talking about? darshan has consistently shitted on every top laner except maybe ssumday but it's not like he beat darshan either.

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deediazhPowerOfEvil•

Op is the number one Darshan fan, everyone knows he is the exception, no one here was asking for Darshan during the off season mate.

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bkaiser•

This is true. OP is blind with his boner for darshan. While darshan put together a string of decent games he is certainly not the consistent top 3 of the league like cuck thinks.

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rackooon•

Unpopular opinion: Same scenario when people were defending Chauster even though he was playing like shit by the end of his career.

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atapama•

Jesus christ. I thought it was part of the agreement when you sign up to the faith. I rather have bio have a brake. Do people really see him as the captain or just the appointed shot caller. And P.O.E I mean he been playing solid. But is that enough to have dub him our super star midlaner. And darshan.....well enough said.

They all need to step up really. I still believe.

GUESS WE PLAYING FOR LATE GAME BOYS

LETS JUST SCALE UP FROM HERE

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Kasaizo•

I agree with the benching method of motivating players, but it only works when we have games to spare. If we started off the year with the main roster, and had an extra win or two, I'm on board with a little shaming. But coaches also need to realize even in a slump, the main roster should be together through to the end unless the trend is spiraling and you just need to blow it up.

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Sagacious_Sophist•

It's almost as if u/mindgamesweldon doesn't know what he's doing and is a snakeoil salesman that has literally never achieved anything other than conning NA teams out of money.

No, really, we should all join in and help out:

kumbaya, my lord

kumbaya

kumbaya, my lord

kumbaya

kumbaya, my lord

kumbaya

oh, lord, kumbaya

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ConservativeCuuckOP•

Correlation is not causation.

He also carried every game last split.

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