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Is Fox being overlooked as MIP?

Mostly everyone I’ve seen say it’s only Siakam or Dlo. Fox has made one of the biggest single season jumps in advanced stats in the history of modern basketball. This isn’t a normal rookie leap, this has basically never happened.

He went from 11/4/3 on a 48 TS, 11 PER, -4.27 (73 out of 75 PGs) RPM, -0.6 WS, -4.40 BPM, -1.6 VORP and -4 PIPM

This year he’s averaging 17/7/4 on 55 TS, 2 steals a game, 18 PER, 2.28 RPM (13th PG) 4.5 WS, 1.0 BPM, 1.5 VORP and 1.7 PIPM.

There is almost no historical comp for his jump in RPM and BPM. The one bad thing about this is how every fan base with a terrible rookie will cite Fox as to why they’ll definitely improve and be good. This isn’t 2k.

Posted Mar 12, 2019, 8:35 AM UTC

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walterdog12[BOS] James Young•

Don't sophomores almost never win cause it's expected for them to get better?

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Wm_2Nets•

Especially lottery pick sophomores.

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Brownie0814•

Yeah this is why I think he won’t win but he definitely is having a killer season.

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DeathBySuplex[UTA] Dell Curry•

Yeah I think if a sophomore were to win it, they'd have to make some kind of substantial leap, like doubling their stats and going from sixth man to guaranteed All Star.

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henstobs11[LAL] Marcelo Huertas•

yep. If sophomores could win it greats like MJ (though he got sidelined basically his whole 2nd season, 3rd season practically being his "sophomore" year) & LeBron would have MIP all under their resumes

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FKJVMMP[MIL] Bill Zopf•

Greats like Gilbert Arenas have won it...

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OlafdePolaf[ATL] DeAndre' Bembry•

yeah but he was a late second round pick who really improved insanely. not a lottery pick expected to be good

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FKJVMMP[MIL] Bill Zopf•

Was there literally anybody who expected De’Aaron Fox to be this good this year?

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cantGObacktoTORaptors•

Unless of course that sophomore wins ROY...

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YouHaveBeenBaptizedHawks•

Sophomore. I can only agree with like second rounders making dramatic improvement to win in second year.

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sharklavapit•

Even then Im pretty positive no 2nd rounder ever won the award on their second year in the league

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ScaryBullfrog[WAS] Bradley Beal•

Kevin Duckworth, Monta Ellis, and Gilbert Arenas all did as second rounders, Alvin Robertson, Kevin Johnson, Rony Seikaly, and Don McLean all did it as first rounders

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YouHaveBeenBaptizedHawks•

Gilbert Arenas did. Although I believe he’s the only one.

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49_1•

bruh

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Kachyi•

Not to throw salt into some teams wounds, but damn Fox, Lauri, Mitchell, Collins, Kuzma out performing the top two picks of the draft.

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The_prophet21276ers•

Why you gotta do me like that?

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WeezyAtlantaHawks•

Lmao

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uchendu123•

Its kinda against the spirit of the award to give it to sophomores, who obviously will almost always make a leap.

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lolokwhatevermanTimberwolves•

Not only is it unusual for sophomores to win, but Siakam has simply had a greater jump

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Aroy11Raptors•

Yup last year he was bench role player. Now he’s arguably the second option on a contender. It’s his award.

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Popquizhotshot206•

To piggy back on everyone else, the sophmore thing is hard to overcome. Only two sophmores have won MIP over the past 25 years, and the average amount of years in the league for MIP winners is 3.7.

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JasonTateThem•

No top 5 pick in their second year is going to win this award. They are expected to grow either from contributor to starter or starter to star. Anything less is usually not considered in a positive light.

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michaelkiefer•

It’s expected for sophomores to get way better so I don’t think they will consider him unless it’s sooo much better than anyone else

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WeezyAtlantaHawks•

Not bringing up John Collins means he's really the one being over looked

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BlackMathNerdBulls•

Sopohmores are expected to get better.

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chitownbulls92[CHI] Lauri Markkanen•

A sophomore will never win unless they become some kinda superstar within one season

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A_Lalli13Clippers•

Why not Buddy Hield?

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teoyoung10•

Bojan bogdonavich deserves a nod

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Calebtheking03[LAL] Lonzo Ball•

No

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