Sarah Palin without makeup, what do you ladies think?

This was reposted from here http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/b03bt/a_lesson_in_white_privilege_what_if_sarah_palin/ and it was asked whether things would be different if she was less made up. She still looks pretty, just her persona is different and she would probably attract a different type of audience. What do y'all think?!

Edit: I was hoping that wouldn't get downvoted so hard, I think that this issue brings up many important questions for discussion. Women are still more harshly judged for appearance than men, think Michelle Obama, Hillary and her cleavage, so many more :(

Posted Feb 10, 2010, 2:39 PM UTC · edited

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serume•

I find it completely heartbreaking that anyone cares. Should a politician dress well/appropriately? I believe so. But thinking that makeup actually has effect on votes.. it makes me want to cry. Mostly out of anger. In Sweden, we just had headlines about a politicians handbag. Her friggin' handbag! I have no idea what she said in the last debate, but I know what purse she carries. Awesome world.

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Teatoly•

I agree! I am extremely dismayed by the ridiculous focus on the outside appearance of a female politician rather than her platform. We seem to never do this with male politicians, and i don't get why.

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MrsMudskipper•

I understand your dismay... But truly, Palin is the one getting the significant focus - not all female politicians. It may seem like the public is putting undue attention on the outside appearance of all female politicians, but I can't really name another besides Palin. Let's keep it in perspective.

As far as men are concerned - I think Obama's "outward appearance" has had just as much attention as Palin's. He has both suffered and been rewarded for what he looks like.

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hellookittyOP•

I agree the same goes for Michelle Obama and whether it's "appropriate" for her to wear tanks or shorts.

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[deleted]•

Well guess that's a positive thing about Germany during the last 2 elections: You can't accuse us of caring much about outwards appearance (although Merkel received a lot of styling before she ran)

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serume•

We had big headlines in Sweden about the "cleavage shock". What Swedes now about Merkel: she's German and has big boobs.

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[deleted]•

No! I'm supposed to look up to Sweden! It's supposed to be better than that! It's a lovely, free place of logic and reason! La la la la la, I'm putting my fingers in my ears and I'm going to bed.

/disappointed face

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[deleted]•

Wow. She looks quite lovely in the non-makeup photos. Thankfully she prefers to look like the clown she is, which makes it that much easier to dismiss her.

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[deleted]•

Who cares, she's a stupid bitch, let's ignore her. I don't want to hear about this idiot.

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lufty•

No one forced you to click this thread to read it, let alone post in it.

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[deleted]•

I'm just saying everyone keeps talking about her. I feel like if she were just ignored by everyone who bashed her she might go away. She doesn't deserve all this attention.

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lufty•

You realize by posting, you're doing just the opposite, right?

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MrsMudskipper•

I think if she ditched the stripy hairdo, glossy lipstick, eye-widening glasses and slathered on makeup, men (a large number of her supporters) would associate her with "mother" or "wife" rather than "sex kitten" and may not line up to see her sign books.

But who are we kidding - we wouldn't be talking about her right now if she looked like this. She would have faded away a long time ago. As far as I see it, these decorations she piles on are the only thing keeping her the center of attention.

I hope this goes all over the internet - it's probably one of the only things she's likely to feel hurt by.

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plumeria•

I think she would look more trustworthy and approachable with neutral colors like that. I don't like that weird beige lipstick/gloss, but I think with realistic colors or a bare face would be much nicer.

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labbrat•

I find it really interesting that some comments here and on the other thread say things like she looks more intelligent/trustworthy/serious/etc. without the makeup and everything - meaning that makeup makes a woman seem less intelligent/trustworthy/serious/etc.

I think this kind of discussion needs to come up more often, because it seems like there's such a conflict for us women. I'm a scientist, and I normally dress casually, wear no makeup, etc., and part of me thinks that's a good choice because it helps me fit the stereotype of "good scientist" (see also: absentminded professor). But if I were to work in business, law, etc., I'd probably dress nicer and wear makeup, just because I think the work environments are more formal. Maybe part of the reason women face obstacles in the workplace is because of the subtle associations people have that equate time spent on appearance with lower intelligence/trustworthiness/etc.

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MrsMudskipper•

That is such an interesting point...

But I think people think differently not because of make-up, but because of so much make-up.

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lufty•

Without the make up, glasses, and hair, she looks like a mother. It's sad that people focus on the dressing up aspect of female politicians. I actually like her, with or without glasses or makeup, and I think plenty of Americans, especially along the bible belt, have been able to see the motherly aspect of Sarah, as well.

Please don't downvote me for maintaining an alternate political viewpoint from the majority of reddit.

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hdcs•

I wish she'd not focus on the dressing up aspects and maybe spend a little more time reading a newspaper.

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MrsMudskipper•

I didn't downvote you for your alternate point of view. I appreciate it. But, c'mon - no one focuses on Hillary, Olympia Snowe or Pelosi for their "dressing up aspect", nor does anyone focus on Hillary and Pelosi's roles as mothers (Pelosi has 5 children too, you know).

Perhaps it's because these women define themselves with their intellect, not with designer hair-dos and children.

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tanglisha•

I hardly recognize her without her glasses. I think her speaking skills might decline if she can't read the teleprompter :)

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labbrat•

Nah, she'd just write her speech on her hand. :)

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EvilGamerKitty•

When you run for office, you cater to the demographic that you want to vote for you. Obviously, she wanted the kind of person that would vote for someone who adds lots of accouterments to themselves. If she had not been made up, she would not have been as popular with that demographic, which was her entire goal.

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[deleted]•

I think I don't give a shit at all about this.

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