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JavaSoCool

Is Tottenham's injury crisis the worst in the PL?

Some of you know about Kane and Dele's long absences due to injury, as well as Son's much publicised national duty absence, but it goes much deeper. I can almost say without verifying that Spurs have the worst injury crisis in the PL this season.

Someone has listed absences here. Data only up to march 1st.

It all started with the world cup, almost the entire squad went deep into the world cup, Kane and Dele played though injury.

  • 12 players did not have a full pre-season.

  • 9 arrived for training 5 days before the first league game.

  • To date only Alderweireld and Gazzaniga have been injury free all season.

  • Against Barca, both starting RB injured, so third choice Kyle Walker-Peters played in do or die game

  • Against Dortmund, both starting LB injured, so Vertoghen had to take over

  • Son, Kane, Dele, Eriksen have started just 7 games together in all competitions this season. Game against City was the 7th time.

This theme of players moving around to cover for each other continued throughout the season, with Dele & Eriksen playing CM, Rose playing winger, Davies playing CB and Son/Moura playing striker.

I've updated some of the data, but it's still largely March 1st data.

Player| no of injuries | Games unavailable ---|---|----|---- Lloris| 1 | 6 Vorm | 1| 6 Trippier | 1| 4 Aurier | 2| 10 Davies | 1 | 7 Rose | 1| 8 Vertonghen | 2| 18 Sanchez | 1| 10 Foyth | 1| 10 Dier | 3 | 15 Sissoko | 2| 6 Wanyama | 2| 22 Dembele | 2 | 20 Eriksen | 1| 4 Dele | 3| 16 Son | 2| 6| Lamela | 2| 10 Lucas| 1| 3 Kane | 1| 7 Winks | 2| 4 * Total| 32| 192

*Winks info up to date

Some injuries overlap, e.g Hugo and Vorm. What the 192 number really means is that Poch missed out on 192 chances to start or sub someone on, not that the injured player would have definitely played, just that Poch lost that option.

Posted Apr 12, 2019, 2:38 AM UTC · edited

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resident_hater:Arsenal:•

It's called depth.

Depth occurs when you buy players.

Buy players.

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albacore_futures:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Interesting! I have not heard of this. Please send more information, if you have it, to [email protected]. I'm sure he'll be as interested as I am to learn of this "buy" thing you speak of.

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kappa23:AC_Milan:•

Is that actually his email address

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leleold•

Yes

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kappa23:AC_Milan:•

Brb I'm gonna submit a bid for Kane

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JavaSoCoolOP:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

We had a full squad. I agree that certain injury prone players like Wanyama and Lamela should have been replaced by more reliable options.

But we did have injury cover, or should we have had 3 players ready for every position? Don't think PL allows 33 player squads. We have 4 centre backs, and 3 got injured so we had to play Davies at CB. As I said in the post, our backups also got injured a lot.

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OstapBenderBey:Arsenal:•

Having a fullback playing CB in a pinch is reasonably common. Having your team where you can't easily rotate forwards and midfielders after a couple of injuries is much more problematic

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JavaSoCoolOP:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

How common is it to start your 6th choice CB?

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snowkarlVarbergs BoIS•

Pretty common if you play a back 3

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SangitinFrance:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Arsenal have played Monreal in a back 3 for the post few weeks, and Maitland Niles at right back. It's not uncommon, especially when someone like ben Davies already plays CB for Wales

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tolucafreak:Deportivo_Toluca_FC:•

And it's not like Davies isn't use to playing CB. He plays it with Wales

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TheDelmeister:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Despite all the injuries and not buying any players we're still going to finish above both you and the other bunch of shitters in blue. Such is the gulf.

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jukkaalms:Besiktas:•

Why does city get shat on for having the money to do so?

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albacore_futures:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Because the source of that money is a cartoonishly villainous absolute monarchy whose social legislation, like its style of government, is medieval.

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JimmyJamesincorp:Universidad_Catolica:•

It’s fuck you money from sheiks that don’t care about basic human rights.

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Oblivion753:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Every time this gets brought up people talk about lack of depth when on paper we have at minimum 2 players for each position. In midfield we had Dier, Wanyama, Winks, Sissoko, Dembele, Alli, and Eriksen. We also have 5 full backs for 2 positions, and yet CM and LB have been areas of most concern this season.

We have a lot more depth than people realize. The issue is that players like Wanyama, Lamela, Dembele (yes I know he’s gone), and Dier are always missing on top of the yearly Kane, Toby, and Rose injuries.

I don’t think we have the wages available to sign anyone without unloading our injury prone players who are generally very good when the do actually play which makes replacing them harder and more expensive.

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prwnasus•

Well when you don’t buy players, it happens

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The_Foreign_Pie:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

That and we had a lot of players at the world cup, but yes I 100% agree.

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ejtv:Manchester_United:•

I'd like to believe we at r/reddevils have worse injury record since after Moyes...

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hardgour:Manchester_United:•

Seconded.

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Badhorse4444•

Thirded

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JavaSoCoolOP:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Sorry, should have said in the title that it's about this season.

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TotsAndHam:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

I don’t think anyone would doubt that but this is strictly about this season. But still I don’t really remember other teams injuries very well so I’m definitely not gonna say how we compare

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xncopka•

Lol you're not the worst at all.

If we take West Ham, games missed in the PL :
5-9 : Zabaleta, Arnautovic, Chicharito, Perez, Cresswell, Diangana.
10-19 : Fredericks, Carroll, Balbuena. 20-29 : Yarmolenko, Lanzini, Sanchez, Wilshere.
30+ : Reid

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laurendoherty:Liverpool:•

Yeah that is because your players didn’t get enough rest last summer

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MindingmyownMedals:AFC_Bournemouth:•

Every team gets injuries, it's not something unique to Spurs. We've been battered by it too.

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taylorrible:Tottenham_Hotspur:•

Pretty sure Lamela has been injured at least four times this season and that Son hasn’t been injured at all. Unless you’re counting fatigue in which case then yeah—that was killing him after the Asian games and arguably after BVB at home.

But yeah it’s honestly been hell. And some players like Dier have just been really unlucky.

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ky2rie:Hull_City:•

Personally I don't think so.

I think the massive underdog named Liverpool who have just risen from the ashes have had the biggest crisis. It's a miracle they're fighting for the league.

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