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ae35

Looking for rule clarification

So we are playing when one player reaches 10 points and claims victory.

Another reveals 4 victory point cards which brings them to 10 points.

Its a tie?

Is there a rule for this?

Thanks in advance as i have a 10 and 9 year bickering their theories as to who is the champion of catan

Posted Apr 20, 2019, 12:17 AM UTC

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srbman•

Pretty sure the rule book says you can only win on your turn, so the player that revealed 4 VP cards should have done it earlier.

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Holgrin•

The rules say "if you have 10 or more points during your turn the game ends and you win. If you reach 10 points and it is not your turn, the game continues until someone has 10 points on their turn."

This seems like the person who revealed their 10 VPs first should be the winner, as long as it is their turn.

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Avocado111Largest Army•

When the other player for the 4th vp why didn't they claim the victory? Did they just not realize they had 10 points? Got to play then on your turn for them to count...

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SamCroos•

First one to reach 10 points during their turn wins. So whomever bought the development card that was a victory point that brought him to 10 points did so on their turn. 10 points on their turn =win.. the fact that you continued the game after his turn was where things went wrong haha

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kelvSYC•

You can only claim victory on your turn. In a tournament setting, if you discovered that you could have claimed victory in a previous turn but did not do so, you must wait until your next turn to declare victory, which in turn allows opponents to declare victory if they are in a position to do so.

In a less formal setting, of course, the rule is that victory is declared on your behalf. In your scenario, the player with four VP cards could have declared victory but did not, allowing the other player to declare victory. In a tournament setting, the other player would be the winner, simple as that. In a less formal setting, players are allowed to agree that the player with the four victory point cards to have automatically played them upon the first opportunity to do so and thus be declared the winner.

Keep in mind that the rule of VP cards is that you can play as many cards as you want, but only if doing so would allow the player to declare victory. Until that happens, VP cards are not worth any victory points. In a tournament setting, it cannot be easily proven that those four VP cards were in fact VP cards; in a less formal setting, this can be more loosely interpreted.

In a 5-6 player game, keep in mind that you can buy a VP card from the SBP, but no one can declare victory in the SBP. As such, it cannot be easily proven that the player with four VP cards actually had those cards in their previous turn since they could have acquired them in an SBP.

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-twitch-•

Given that some people like to strategically hold onto VP cards though, I would say that, by not playing them, they should be assumed to have chosen not to play them. Maybe I’m a bit of a hard liner though.

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kelvSYC•

Given the restrictions on when a VP card can be played, there isn’t that much of a strategic advantage in not playing them at the first opportunity. After all, any time you choose not to play your VP cards when you can is an opportunity that an opponent can steal a win that otherwise would belong to you.

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-twitch-•

Fair...hmm...I’d be interested to hear more opinions on this.

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