/r/GayDaddiesPics forget how recently they had Cops' target on THEIR back, smh
Posted Apr 21, 2019, 8:12 AM UTC
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younger white cis gay dudes honestly dont believe me when i tell them that in living memory they would have been thrown in gaol, beaten or even killed by law enforcement.
they act like the mid 90s was 1000 years ago.
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It's defintiely a bit odd. And I mean it's not even the 90s. The shit still happens. LGBTQ people still get unequal justice. Still get profiled and targeted by the cops. Still get harassed, entrapped, treated with absolutely no regard for humanity or human rights. Especially transgender people holy fuck the cops are absolutely brutal to trans people. There was a recent story of a woman who had all her identifying documents in order and had completed bottom surgery who out of nervousness declared she was trans.
They then started mocking her, forced her to be cavity searched by a man instead of a woman, they locked her in with the men and taunted her about it.
But they still abuse the rest of us too. 42% of women in prison are WLW. Think about that for a minute. 3-5% of the population. 42% of prisoners.
A 2013 report focused on anti-LGBT violence that occurred in the previous year found that of the LGBT violence survivors surveyed who interacted with police, 48% reported that they had experienced police misconduct, including unjustified arrest, use of excessive force and entrapment. Additionally, police officers accounted for 6% of all offenders reported by respondents; of offenders who were personally unknown to the victim, police made up 23%.
None of this is history. It's ongoing. And the only way you could possibly escape even something as simple as knowing about it is if you're swimming in privilege.
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Currently seeing this play out on the Bara Boards with a thread in /Dis/ titled "Why the T in LGBT Stands for Tacked On"
Homosexuals just got the right to marry in the US less than 5 years ago and these fools are like "Ok we got ours, PULL THE LADDER UP!!". I'm just a straight chick into muscly dudes but I still got eyes so even my dumb horny ass knows NONE of the groups are out the damn hole yet. All are right here with the rest of us in the struggle and it shouldn't take having your skull cracked by a cop to realize this. Solidarity damn it.
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Thanks for this
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In 4th grade my teacher taught us that racism was a problem until MLK had a dream and it's been more or less smooth sailing from there.
Some people forget history. Others don't know to ask. Overwhelming majority refuse to be told.
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Well, some people like your teacher also lie about history to kids that have no way of knowing better. It's not just apathy or ignorance, there's a lot of malicious intent from the establishment.
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his teacher was probably taught the same thing in school, and probably has never really experienced racism themselves so to them it doesnt exist
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Gay LA is a fairly regional book, but it's a good one. Talks a lot about law/law enforcement and their impact on the LGBTQ community.
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Some of these books are dated but these are some very good books (but unfortunately very American/Europe-centric):
-Becoming Visible: An illustrated history of Lesbian and Gay life in America (this book is very SF and New York specific, sadly not much coverage of trans or bi/pan people-it was published twenty years ago but it's good)
-Odd Girls and twilight lovers: A history of lesbian life in the twentieth century
--Transgender History: The roots of today's revolution (2nd Ed.)
-How Sex Changed: A history of Transsexuality in the United States
-A Queer History of the United States (the author was very inspired by Howard Zinn)
-A Gay History of Britain: Love and sex between men since the Middle Ages
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I just saw a documentary the other day that was really good (and under an hour). It's super local to San Diego, but the story is pretty much the story of a lot of places during that time. It gives a really good overview of the time period. Check it out.
https://video.kpbs.org/video/san-diegos-gay-bar-history-tgoue6/
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25 years is still quite a long period of time. And anyway, it's over. Fuggedaboutit!
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Silence, liberal.
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I'm not a liberal. I'm a leftist.
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Not a very good one
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Oh god fuck that pig. I remember not too long ago back when I was a lib that this was a controversy on liberal twitter, with most libs inevitably siding with the fucking cops. Itâs gross and I 100% agree. Police presence (among other things) is why I donât go to pride parades
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are cop tropes in gay porn subversive or not? this is something i think about a lot. Is it gay liberation that we can fantasise about cops in a controlled safe way, or is it just us internalising our own oppression?
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Only if the cop is getting raw gangbanged.
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I too , visit boundgods.
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oh we love boundgods, i didn't mean to impugn that for a second.
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yikes
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Normally it would be yikes, but I classify this under revolutionary justice. Do you want a revolution without a raw gangbanging?
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sorry, what is the actual implication of the original reply? are we gangbanging the cops to teach em a lesson? do we just enjoy seeing class traitors sexually assaulted? is the cop into it?
edit: also, yes there will be tons of gangbangs after the revolution, obviously
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Yikes minus "ik" equals yes.
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There's something a bit off about how much porn hinges on these sort of power discrepancies. Like it isn't just 'person has sex with person', it's 'cop forces prisoners to have sex with them,' or 'landlord forces tenant to have sex with them'. And it almost seems like people aren't getting off on the sex itself, but on the power fantasy. They don't like imagining themselves having sex, they like imaging themselves either being able to force someone else to have sex or being forced into having sex.
So I don't think I'd say it's subversive. It represents an acceptance of how powerless most people are in capitalist society, and how they can't imagine liberating themselves from that powerlessness, so they simply hope that powerlessness can lead to some form of enjoyment.
But I dunno, that's just a hot take.
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totally, i think the power discrepancies are the real fetish, and it would only make sense that we would model them on the existing power relations in the society around us. What I wonder tho if gay cop porn is ultimately endorsing / naturalising those power relations. and yeah the answer is probably yes.
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but on the other hand, if you're a fem gay boy living in a masc patriarchal society, fantasising about about getting dominated by cops does have some perverse catharsis to it. i mean tom of finland drew fetishised pictures of german nazi soldiers after he was conscripted into WWII and he says "The whole Nazi philosophy, the racism and all that, is hateful to me, but of course I drew them anywayâthey had the sexiest uniforms!"
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"everything is sex
except sex
which is power"
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âYou know power is just sex. You screw me and I screw your too.â
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In Germany at least there is some new fetish of watching porn with girls in hijabs who want to immigrate, but dont have money so they...
Human beings are really wicked.
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Sex is supposed to include fantasy, but there is a line in which you become pretty shitty right?
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Cops will still beat up trans people smh
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I always side eye people with uniform fetishes. You do you, whatever makes you #bust, but cops and troops are bad.
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unfortunately so many young white gay men are utter trash.
like bi folks are pretty used to not being acknowledged in lgbt spaces and most often it's young white dudes.
also the misogyny.
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I feel that white gay guys can âpassâ as a straight white male in normal society and so they just donât understand.
I used to be in a similar situation to most other liberal white gay dudes but I like to think that because I have autism (although itâs not obvious unless you interact with me) I saw much more clearly than my peers how disadvantaged people are treated in our society.
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I feel that white gay guys can âpassâ as a straight white male in normal society and so they just donât understand.
"Passing" doesn't matter for much when people just casually say homophobic shit to your face exactly because they don't think you're not straight, or when your family hates your guts but doesn't know it.
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Iâd rather not discuss it too heavily but people showing disdain for an identity whilst not knowing you belong to said identity is a lot better than people showing hatred for you directly.
To bring up my personal experience again: some people are very antagonistic over how I act as a person with autism and this is much worse than someone insulting autistic people online where I can see it.
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Having a cop fetish is no better than having a Nazi fetish or serial killer fetish. It's bad. Get off to firemen, EMS, or my god, some sexy union daddies. hello steelworkers, loggers, miners, mechanics.
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link plz
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Speaking as a gay man myself, Iâm pretty sure cop sexualization is a thingâand has been a thing for a while, even in the bad old days of the â60s-â80s (see, e.g., Tom of Finland) â because itâs commonly associated with traditionally masculine traits.
Open up Grindr or Scruff and youâll see that a critical mass of guys on there are openly looking for âmascâ or âmasc onlyâ / âno femsâ. Often youâll see these same guys put âMilitaryâ in their tribes or in their looking for tribes.
This pic is just an extension of uniforms being a proxy for traditionally masc traitsâI donât think thereâs any deeper political angle to it than that.
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~YASS TARGET ON MY BACK DADDY!~~đđđ đŚ
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Is he real?
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InGrAtIaTeD
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Daddy Mueller looking swole.
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A lot of white gays don't know our history, and if they do, they (like white women) pick white priveledge over their oppressed identity.
Mattachine made WAVES when they had one of their members get off on an entrapment case, because thats what it was, entrapment. Still today, trans people are often entrapped using "against the law of nature" law - an outdated sodomy and bestiality law. At least in my state.
Cops are not LGBTQ+ Friends. They have killed, beaten, harassed and entrapped us for shits and giggles.
Last Pride I went to in Aus, the (cis white gay man) organiser went on a spiel about how we should do the work of accepting cops into the parade.
Like, why the fuck should we do the work? The cops here still haven't even done anything about the still employed pigs who went on gay bashing sprees in the 90s. How about if they want to coopt our movement for their PR they can do the work to earn it?
I mean nothing they do will.make me accept them but even for centrist gays it's a wild proposition.
Its the shitlib idea of "if we're good enough they'll give us rights".
Also a distinct lact of education in LGBT circles. We dont know our history, and companies took pride from us to market it so....
I'm lucky in that an older gay explained a lot of stuff to me, Stonewall etc and Reddit has done a lot of the rest. It's not the same but I have a deeper appreciation now of how for example the loss of Aboriginal history is a tragedy that has ripples across modern Aboriginal culture today
I think its very important to realize we lost an entire generation of LGBT+ with AIDS, so we have to record history and teach it to ourselves now, because most of our elders are gone.
AIDS was intentionally neglected as a weapon of genocide
exactly
cops do fucking nothing to change, and we have to bend over backwards to "accept" them.
we have cops still active in my state who led the charge against gay/trans people 20 years ago
i will never accept cops as "allies" nor do i have any interest in "seeing their side"
if you choose to join a profession that engages in wilfull persecution of minorities, you are morally degenerate to begin with
And if they say "just following orders", then you know that if the law changes, those same FILTH marching in pride parades will turn around and bash/arrest you
how the fuck is that ok??
was this mardi gras?
mardi gras is run by white cis gay dudes
mardi gras is shit
Pride in Brisbane last year IIRC
The downvotes I'm getting in that sub are making me think white gay males like licking boots as much as they like licking cock. I think I just found my calling.
I was at a gay bar not too long ago with a cishet friend and I started to graffiti "Fuck the police" into one of the tables (out of boredom) and my friend was like "Why would you do that? The gay community doesn't have problems with the police."
I was just like đ¤Śââď¸.
Tell us more. We want to hear how you owned the libs.
Username checks out.
they still do. There's one case from 2010 (I think) where a cop targeted trans women to r*pe them. Never trust a cop.
One of the chapters in Transgender History by Susan Stryker covers some of this. It's a good book.
Im the biggest susan stryker stan in the world
Lillian Faderman's book Gay LA covers this in sections. Great book, recommended for anyone interested in LGBTQ history, especially if you're in southern California.
u/ConcernedGay1
Considering the argument we had over in r/politics about Pete Buttigieg, I feel like you should read this comment and give it some thought.
Gross. Why did you page me into this cesspool?
I want your take on the comment I was responding to.
Also, for fun, and to find out if you'd actually blocked me.
They HAVE. They wont anymore. Fuck you got mine
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