Red Hill Valley Parkway class-action lawsuit for $250M filed against City of Hamilton
thespec.com/news-story/9346672-red-hill-valle...Posted May 10, 2019, 3:47 AM UTC
Posted May 10, 2019, 3:47 AM UTC
Unrelated but I distinctly remember “members of organized crime” strong arming individuals who camped out in trees to protest the RHVP. Arrests and jail time. I guess what I am trying to say is there was a lot of push to have this artery built regardless of environmental impact or indigenous history. I wish I was more shocked that it was built using improper materials and that someone thought burying the reporting was the best course of action.
"Organized Business" please, as is the preferred term today. It's "just business", okay? So don't take it personally or anything.
lol.. Questioning the validity and benefit the link brought, over some worn tarmac and a bunch of tree huggers.
questioning the deciding factors, materials used and outside motivations of organized crime families who have their hand in contruction projects*
My favourite claim about this highway is that 'everyone knew there was a problem with traction for years' and 'I've been saying for years there is a problem in this section' from so many of those who went on to crash there. Did it ever occur to them to adjust speed on this 'known' section of dangerous highway?
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Yay for cash grabs for lawyers... Sad that those victims actually think they'll ever see more than a couple of bucks.
It's more about holding people accountable than anything.
yeah, class action lawsuits really don't do that.. they generally get paid out by insurance and pay 1/3 of the total to lawyers and then spread around the rest among as many members of the class action as they can scrounge up.
Yes, and how likely are their insurance rates going to stay the same? Do you think the insurance companies might demand some action in exchange for further/additional/continued coverage? Class actions are not perfect but to suggest they don't spur accountability/change is just wrong - and there are thousands of examples.
The action is already being taken.. the reports have come to light, changes are being made to the roadway.
This is not some grand gesture against tobacco companies who have wilfully mislead consumers for decades, this is a cash grab by the lawyers against a current municipal government, which wasn't actually involved in the cover up (and in fact brought it to light). So now municipal tax payers (me) will have to pay for the increased insurance costs while the victims will receive essentially nothing (and lose their rights to sue should the class action fail.)
The only people being punished are tax payers, for an act caused by a different government. The report was buried in 2013 the current government was elected in 2014
I will admit, the RHVP is one curvy as hell roadway. But here is a bright idea... to put down the phone.
Playing devils advocate too, I will say, guard rails and lighting could have reduced the severity of a couple of the crashes that happened on that stretch. Bright lighting also could help reduce crashes caused by fatigue.
Are you saying that the concerns over the road surface friction are unfounded? Because the report that was raised these concerns was done by a company that specializes in roadway and runway friction testing, and overseen by a professional engineer from a large and well-respected engineering firm.
May I ask the basis under which you think those concerns were invalid?
Ok so if there are twice as many crashes on RHVP as the linc in the same time period, then we could guesstimate that half of the crashes on the RHVP would have happened anyways. Is there going to be an attempt to sort that out or is it just anyone who can lie about speeding can sue the city now?
I mean I get that more than normal cars crashed, and maybe deaths could have been prevented by action by the city. But on the other side of the coin these were not slow moving cars that just randomly flipped off the road. These people were obviously speeding or swerving. I have driven many cars in many kinds of conditions and I have driven on RHVP in rain snow and night, and you don't just flip off the road "for no reason" while driving normally. These people act like they were just minding their own business, but if normal speed-limit-straight-line-driving cars were just flying off the road for no reason then we'd have like thirty cars flying off the corners of the higway every freakin day.
Also, the Linc is a flat, straight line from start to finish for the most part. The texting and driving becomes much more difficult on the Red Hill 🙄
I don't know how it's going to play out but I would be surprised if some toxicology reports don't end up getting pulled out. That's going to be difficult on a lot of people.
Thank you for being reasonable and putting my thoughts through words so clearly.