Jay and Jen told their friends: Who knew what, and when?
It's been a while since I wrote one of these compilations. They seem to be used to convince people who will never be convinced. Or catch out someone incapable of recognizing it when they've been caught out.
But I was inspired by u/BrandPessoa to assemble some of the points BP was making. And to add what I know.
This isn't an area of the case I know well. If I'm missing stuff, I hope people will say so.
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(1) Jen: Jen picked up Jay the evening of January 13, 1999. Jay got in the car and told Jen that Adnan killed Hae. Jay said he saw Hae's body in a trunk, that she was strangled but that he did not know where the body was. Jay said that Adnan used Jay's shovels to bury Hae. Jay asked Jen to drive back to the dumpsters, so Jay could wipe the shovels clean of prints. In 2019, on the HBO show, Jen said that - right up until Serial - she didn't know that Jay helped with the burial. She didn't know that Jay knew where the body was buried, and that he lied to her about not knowing.
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(2) Jeff: Kristi's boyfriend. Rumor is that Jay told Jeff that Adnan killed Hae either that night, or soon after. I think Jeff is deceased.
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(3) Kristi: It's unclear if Kristi had any idea of what happened, up until the day that detectives came to interview Jen.
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(4) Nicole: Jen told Nicole that she (Jen) knew of a girl named Hae who got strangled to death. Jen told Nicole that she (Jen) knew who did it, but Jen didn't tell Nicole who did it. Jen told Nicole that Jay told her (Jen) about "this girl who got strangled." Jen was asking Nicole what she (Jen) should do with this information. Nicole asked Jen a couple of questions, but Jen doesn't remember what the questions were. This conversation happened in the 7-11 parking lot on Frederick Road, and may have occurred on February 4, 1999. Link to excerpt.
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(5) Josh/Nicole's boyfriend: Jen told police she was driving with friends Josh and Nicole the day the body was discovered, February 9. She told Nicole that she heard a body was just found in Leakin Park. Nicole replied: “Yeah, my mom found a body at the gate this morning when she unlocked it.” Jen says that she told Nicole that if the body was strangled, it's Hae. This is a lie by either Jen, Nicole, or both. No body was discovered by the gate that day. Either way, this story is significant because Jen is saying she and Nicole knew Hae was strangled. And Jen is saying this before the cause of death was made public. Josh was apparently, in the car, and heard the conversation.
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(6) Porn Store Josh: From Serial: Josh says Jay told him it was the ex-boyfriend who’d killed Hae. This is relayed as happening before detectives picked up Jay, on February 28.
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Also from Serial: When Jay first told Josh weeks before that he knew something about the missing girl who was all over the news, Josh says he didn’t believe him. Josh: I said something about him not really being involved and then he’s like, “no man, you don’t understand, I helped to bury the body.” It seemed like he was kind of bragging, I mean that’s kind of the guy that Jay was. It’s not that he bragged about stuff that he did, sometimes he made up things that he didn’t do and so that’s kind of what I thought he was doing. Why would you say that, why would you tell somebody that you really don’t know that well-- and I guess it’s why I didn’t believe him. If I had done it, I certainly wouldn’t have told me.
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(7) Chris Baskerville: From Serial: I talked to three people who said they knew Jay well, or hung out with him around the time of the crime and I asked them if he ever told them about what happened. I went to Chris first because when Jay spoke to detectives that first night during his first taped interview, Jay mentioned Chris by name. The cops had asked Jay if he had told anyone else about Adnan committing this murder and Jay said he’d told Chris. Chris told me police never questioned him, not that he could remember anyway and he thought he’d remember something like that. There are no notes in their files about an interview with Chris. But Chris said it was true, Jay did tell him about what had happened, but his version, the building blocks are the same but the surrounding details are unfamiliar. Of course, giant caveat, it’s fifteen years later that I’m asking Chris to tell me, but for comparison purposes, here goes.
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Chris says Jay told him he was at a pool hall out on Route 40 and Catonsville when he got a call from Adnan. The pool hall was either VIP or Bluejays, Chris says, they were across the street from each other at the time. Sarah Koenig: He told you that Adnan came to get him when he was at a pool hall? Chris: He was shooting pool, Adnan called him he was like “yo, I gotta talk to you,” and he was like “yo I’m busy.” “Yo, where are you” and he told him where he was. Adnan showed up and he’s like “oh I gotta talk to you” and he’s like-- this was a little tug of war for a while and Adnan eventually convinced him to come outside with him and his car or, I don’t know if he was driving his car or Hae Lee’s.
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Sarah: In this version the trunk pop happens at the pool hall. Chris said Jay told Adnan he wanted nothing to do with it but Adnan forced him, told him he was in it now, he was an accessory and he knew Jay couldn’t go to the cops because of his own illegal activities so Jay was stuck. He helped bury the body. Chris figured Leakin Park was likely Jay’s idea rather than Adnan’s. Chris’s information about the crime itself doesn’t quite match the State’s version. He said, Jay told him that Adnan confronted Hae about flirting with another guy, a car salesman and when she called Adnan crazy, he snapped and strangled her. And Chris said he heard this happened in the parking lot of the Woodlawn Public Library. Remember that’s the one that’s right on campus where Asia said she saw Adnan that day.
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Sarah: Chris says Jay told him that Adnan threatened to kill Stephanie if Jay didn’t keep his mouth shut. This is not the first I’d heard about something like this. Jay told the cops that he worried that Adnan would hurt Stephanie too and he also testified at trial that Adnan has made it clear that he could get to Stephanie any time he wanted since they were such good friends. Stephanie herself tells the cops, this is in their notes of their conversation with her, that Jay told her to stay away from Adnan. Chris says Jay told him Adnan showed up at Jay’s house with Stephanie not long after the crime and made a gesture to indicate “I’ll hurt her if you’re not careful.”
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Chris: So Stephanie goes inside past Jay and he steps out onto the porch with Adnan and he says “you’re not going to terrorize me,” and Adnan says “you keep your mouth shut or something’s going to happen.” If he had any weakness, it was Stephanie. Jay would do, he would move heaven and earth if it came to protecting Stephanie.
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On February 8, 2016, Chris Baskerville replied to an email, "Jay told me everything I know about the case at least a week before the body was found."
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(8) Tayab Hussain: On August 21, 1999, Tanveer spoke to defense counsel associate, Ali Pournador. Per Tanveer: Jay told Tayab that he helped bury the body, after Adnan killed Hae. It is unclear whether Jay conveyed this to Tayab before or after Adnan was arrested. Link. Side note: Rabia once thought Bilal was the anonymous caller. Now she thinks it was Tayab.
ETA: Link to excerpt from Jay's February 28 interview in which he talks about Jen, Chris, and Tayib
Posted May 26, 2019, 2:36 AM UTC · edited